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Average male levels of Est are 10-60 pg/ml. Average female levels are 15-350 pg/ml.

Men convert Test to Est through aromatization, as RTBoss alluded to.

Given what RTBoss said, could there be masculine and feminine versions of Est itself?

Also, what does wearing 10 mcg of ESTratetraenol signal about the wearer's endogenous levels? Does 10 mcg signal an additional 10 pg/ml blood count, or does it signal an additional 5 or 50 or 100 pg/ml?
lol, every time i wear evolve people tell me that i smell like a shit.
I dont get it but i just cant use it anymore
(09-01-2020 5:10 PM)tomasmasek Wrote: [ -> ]lol, every time i wear evolve people tell me that i smell like a shit.

It could be a body chemistry thing, Mones work and interact differently from person-to-person, but also out of curiosity have you tried using it with a cover scent?
(09-01-2020 7:08 PM)IndianaMones Wrote: [ -> ]It could be a body chemistry thing, Mones work and interact differently from person-to-person, but also out of curiosity have you tried using it with a cover scent?



Well i used some parfumes to cover it but it didnt help. My friends said that i smelled like a homeless... like i didnt shower for weeks. But really, no jokes. And i didnt smell it, maybe just a little.
(09-01-2020 9:01 PM)tomasmasek Wrote: [ -> ]Well i used some parfumes to cover it but it didnt help. My friends said that i smelled like a homeless... like i didnt shower for weeks. But really, no jokes. And i didnt smell it, maybe just a little.

Sometimes you come across someone sensitive to the smell, but it's unusual that so many people would have that reaction. How many sprays of EV?
(09-02-2020 5:08 PM)nephil Wrote: [ -> ]Sometimes you come across someone sensitive to the smell, but it's unusual that so many people would have that reaction. How many sprays of EV?

Well, people reacted on one spray already. I dont know how many people smelled it but it was always all my friends
(09-02-2020 5:08 PM)nephil Wrote: [ -> ]Sometimes you come across someone sensitive to the smell, but it's unusual that so many people would have that reaction. How many sprays of EV?

Evolve and Ascend are probably the worst smelling pheromone products I've ever had the displeasure of smelling. You don't have to be sensitive to the smell to be able to tell this. The problem is that mone users are so used to piling on the mones that they become anosmic to their aroma over time.

If you want to find out for yourself how bad they smell, take a phero break for a few months and then go back and smell them. I would suggest not wearing aromachemicals such as Iso E for the same period of time because they can mute your sense of smell too, in my experience.

If you cannot do that, ask 10 friends you trust to give you a completely honest answer on whether you smell awful or not.

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(09-01-2020 9:01 PM)tomasmasek Wrote: [ -> ]Well i used some parfumes to cover it but it didnt help. My friends said that i smelled like a homeless... like i didnt shower for weeks. But really, no jokes. And i didnt smell it, maybe just a little.

I can't smell it either since I can't smell pheromones.

If you are going to wear a high Androstenone product you must wear a cover scent capable of covering it.

This website has information on pretty much every fragrance out there.
https://www.fragrantica.com/

Every fragrance has user votes for longevity and Silage. Pick a cover scent with mostly long lasting and very long lasting votes. Also make sure it has heavy or enormous sillage so the nasty smell doesn't leak through the cover scent.

To make matters a little more complicated sometimes fragrances are reformulated and the reformulated versions sometimes have worse longevity and sillage. Also if you get a counterfeit product the longevity and sillage will be worse so you won't cover the stink properly.
I have an old batch of Evolve that I got right after Steve O opened up his own shop. Its so strong, that I am still using it today. Granted, Evolve isnt my everyday go-to phero, but I still use it 2x a month on average. Also, I dont have the spray, it came in a teeny tiny dropper bottle.

This post caught my eye today because I used Evolve yesterday on my arms and I can still smell it plain as day today, even after showering.

I will agree with you, it does smell strong when you put it on, and you have to wear a cover scent or you will get looks from some people about the smell. But for me, it is one that I will always have in my war chest. Makes the ladies extra juicy and horney. I have them actually huff my application spots, which is so funny. (MMM, for your info, blondes, in their early 40's = Juicy Lucy's)

Be advised that you cant just cover it with a light cologne. A heavier, spicier scent works best. I use Mont Blanc, or a heavy Oud that I have, and then go stand outside and let it dry down.

To summarize, I agree with you, its very strong. I just use less and cover it more. But its one of the hardest hitting mones out there.
how long do you guys think it lasts until it gets spoiled. i mean, mine is like 2 years old, so maybe it smells because its spoiled
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