am 33 i be 34 friday and from 2018 i weigh 460 as of 2022 i am now 170. i had a great personal trainer when i first start working out but now. am working on bulking up on muscle not to become a musclebound roid rager but to look cut.

i seen personal before insult and belittle their clients but me that not what am after am wanting to uplift all the fat kids that i can

any tips on anything would help

(06-02-2022 3:49 AM)warcheese Wrote:  am 33 i be 34 friday and from 2018 i weigh 460 as of 2022 i am now 170. i had a great personal trainer when i first start working out but now. am working on bulking up on muscle not to become a musclebound roid rager but to look cut.

i seen personal before insult and belittle their clients but me that not what am after am wanting to uplift all the fat kids that i can

any tips on anything would help

If your goal is to be a good trainer that wants to motivate the clients I found that a good way was to show them success stories of people who were in their situation and managed to change, that's a lot of psychology oing on there. I was doing some coaching (though not a gym trainer), but I did get clients who were saying similar things that their previous mentors were kinda stepping over them for a time (disipline/don't be a pussy method). The first step was to show them that you're actually willing to help and be with them all the way so they're not alone, then usually there's a phase when they don't believe in themselves, something like "yes other maybe have it easy but I can't, it doesn't work out", then you show them transformations of other people who were even worse cases and managed.

It's also a pretty individual thing I guess, you can go full on psychologist and find out why they want to change in the first place and see the core driver.

Psycho-therapy method:

Assume that maybe the person doesn't care about being fat just for being fat, that there's a deeper reasoning for it. So you ask:

Why do you wanna workout?
To lose weight

Well would would you want to lose it?
It bothers me

[color=#0000CD]Why does it bother you?
Cause I hate myself (That's a bit of a better reason to workout, not to hate yourself)[/color]

Why would you hate yourself because of it?
Cause not one likes fat people, I won't find love, I'll have poor health (whatever)

Great, you're at the core:

Well...would you prefer to be hated by society, never find love and have health issues that'll cut your lifespan by half or do you want to do the workout and not hate yourself, live longer, perhaps have a chance to attract the one you love and have friends.

I think that's a pretty good motivation. You see it doesn't have to be true even, but it's the other persons beliefs. We just ancher on to them to find the motivation, and now we have.

Next you want to change the belief that they "can't do it" to "it can be done". And that will be from your support. But you mentioned those are kids there, so kids have a weird belief system which is kinda primal in a way, so just work with their kid mind. Make them understand why they need it (cause if they come to you there's a reason).

(06-02-2022 4:24 AM)TracerX Wrote:  If your goal is to be a good trainer that wants to motivate the clients I found that a good way was to show them success stories of people who were in their situation and managed to change, that's a lot of psychology oing on there. I was doing some coaching (though not a gym trainer), but I did get clients who were saying similar things that their previous mentors were kinda stepping over them for a time (disipline/don't be a pussy method). The first step was to show them that you're actually willing to help and be with them all the way so they're not alone, then usually there's a phase when they don't believe in themselves, something like "yes other maybe have it easy but I can't, it doesn't work out", then you show them transformations of other people who were even worse cases and managed.

It's also a pretty individual thing I guess, you can go full on psychologist and find out why they want to change in the first place and see the core driver.

Psycho-therapy method:

Assume that maybe the person doesn't care about being fat just for being fat, that there's a deeper reasoning for it. So you ask:

Why do you wanna workout?
To lose weight

Well would would you want to lose it?
It bothers me

[color=#0000CD]Why does it bother you?
Cause I hate myself (That's a bit of a better reason to workout, not to hate yourself)[/color]

Why would you hate yourself because of it?
Cause not one likes fat people, I won't find love, I'll have poor health (whatever)

Great, you're at the core:

Well...would you prefer to be hated by society, never find love and have health issues that'll cut your lifespan by half or do you want to do the workout and not hate yourself, live longer, perhaps have a chance to attract the one you love and have friends.

I think that's a pretty good motivation. You see it doesn't have to be true even, but it's the other persons beliefs. We just ancher on to them to find the motivation, and now we have.

Next you want to change the belief that they "can't do it" to "it can be done". And that will be from your support. But you mentioned those are kids there, so kids have a weird belief system which is kinda primal in a way, so just work with their kid mind. Make them understand why they need it (cause if they come to you there's a reason).

i can show them it can be done because i done it my self i was one of those big kids in school having the mind set that if someone going love me it be for my mind or personality but it dosnt work like that only 50% of the whole ideal of what people want