No need, I misread it. My bad.

Still, the other thread goes toward proving what I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread about your intentions - selfish and insensitive.

I'm done here.

(05-06-2015 9:47 AM)stefdude Wrote:  And after all that you say you can't trust Steve?Steve who agreed to refund you even after the date expired?Then you post the link of your bashing at pheromone-forum.com supposing that pago is hating PXS and will support this kind of accusing.Well done big boy, you showed your character.I don't believe you will admit your mistake, IF you are wrong about this.

The date didn't expired but I couldn't say anything about that as I can't post anymore there. I didn't supposed anything lol, you are imagine stuff for yourself.

The order took 33 days to come and SteveO counted that time with it. So he seems like the good guy here.

Yeah I will admit it, I'm a selfish and insensitive guy who is attacking a poor SteveO who never lied about anything. Wow it's sound like the gospel almost

(05-06-2015 9:47 AM)stefdude Wrote:  You accused them and Steve personally.You mentioned multiple times LAL when you don't have to.Here you get too easily offended and turn defensive like we are all against you.This kind of suspicion could fuel your imagination into anything, losing your "friends" because you smell bad (you said that), girls avoiding you on purspose for the same reason etc.You are bashing a company and Steve personally over one product over one night's experience while at the same time you keep mentioning LAL.

I don't understand why you keep telling that it's only one night when I tested the product for 3 days. My friend also had the same problem. Please add all the details otherwise you will appear to be bashing me also.

I mentioned lal as a comparison to his product, I think it's a normal stuff to do as he talk about his concurrent in his product page.

I admit that the losing friend stuff was exaggerated but I when I was writing that I had a very bad night so I tried to keep my calm but I'm not perfect you know.

Some girls couldn't pinpoint the source of the smell, so how did your friend had the same experience?You said you asked a girl and she smelled sweat on both of you.She would be of that percentage that can smell them, that is in no way the 80% you are saying.I'm not saying, and never did, that you didn't smell bad, you may did.Only one of the experiences you had indicates bad smell, the rest indicates that SOB didn't work for you (which is not for daytime use and almost all of its users agree with that).You mentioned BW, another bad boy formula, but didn't tell us if you removed it properly first.

What's the lie of Steve?He mentions that pheromones can smell bad to some people.He mentions that most of his formulas are loaded with mones much than his competitors.Can't you add 1+1?Whether or not he lied in the past does that make him a liar about SOB too?In what part?And what is his lies and fake reviews that you keep saying?Any proof or clues?

I knew it. Lol

Posted from DiscoverXS Wrote:Posted from Alpha360
If you have some doubt about what I'm saying just look at the pherotruth website:
Number of review thread rated as 5 star for PXS : 86
Number of review thread rated as 5 star for LAL : 7, only 7.

How is such a thing possible when the old members say that their best vendor is LAL? Why are all the noobs pushing your product like mad?"

So, he came in here questioning the validity of our semi-private forum policy and in my running of the forum. Now he seems to be questioning the integrity of our members? And, in another forum he stated that he doesn't think he can post freely here and does not like me?

There's a really easy solution for all of his little fantasy made up issues, which is to simply go away, but since he can't seem to comprehend that I'll make it a little easier for him and just kick his ass to the curb.

Thank you Mark. This was getting tiring indeed.

As a footnote to others who are thinking of buying SOB oil or any other mone product, please remember that mones may not work the same for everyone because of variables such as body chemistry, character, etc.

This does not mean that the product does not work. It simply means that you need to tweak it for your desired application. Point - know yourself.

Of interest to note is that our recently banhammered Alpha360 is from Indonesia. From experience, an extremely strong none-product may work negatively for this demographic unless it is VERY well buffered. Point - know your target demographic AND psychographic.

It didn't help that that clueless fella not only applied SOB after attempting to wash his previous app of BW off with mere soap and water (proven not to work), he also then freaked out and started throwing other mones at the problem when the girls started beta-shaming him, all the while not having a CLUE as to how to run combos. More on beta shaming later. Points - know your support-products and mechanics; the newbies' mantra should always be "know each INDIVIDUAL product well."

Next comes copulins. Synthetic cops stink, period. Expect to cover well with cologne, and expect to learn the hard way how to properly do so. There's a reason PXS call their product SOB - the acronym stands for Son Of a Bitch. There's a reason LAL call their product DIRTY Primitive - think neanderthal walking around sans loincloth, sex-crazed look in his eyes, with his raging boner gloriously visible for all and their grandmothers to see. If you have no balls to wear copulins out in public and get shit tested to the hilt, you have NO business wearing copulins period, be it synthetic or natural. Point - grow a pair and TEST TEST TEST.

If, after extensive testing, you find repeatable negative reactions from others, it is time to dilute your product to suit YOU. The methodology has been mentioned earlier.

And IF, after all of that, you find the product does not work for you, then it is time to contact the vendor for a refund. Most importantly, log your experiences in a forum such as this so that you can demonstrate that you did everything under the sun before deciding the product doesn't gel with you.

Now to beta-shaming. If Alpha360's attitude is anything to go by, given his posts here and on the other forum, then INCONGRUENCE is most likely at play here, i.e. a sheep in wolf's clothes. Women can sense this a mile away - I know this from experience - and will shit test said beta male until the disguise falls off. I know I've said I'm not going to post anything from RSD anymore, but this is simply pure gold. Watch:
This is likely what happened to him and his friend. Why do I think it happened to his friend? "Birds of a feather....."

Sounds like the amphetamine-like Bad Wolf self-effects pulsating through this thread. Everywhere I look, all I see is ego, ego, ego. Inventing conflicts where there are none based on paranoid imaginations. Looks like my dopaminergic theory is playing out in the worst possible way.

On the larger topic of this thread, I'm seeing sloppy form everywhere. Buying S.O.B., a strongly-scented pheromone mix in a light scent (FXS)? That just won't cut it. His biggest mistake, however, was failing to properly wash off the Bad Wolf he applied the day before. He made a good move in buffering with Bliss and Cohesion, both good choices for buffering -Androstenone-based products, only that the problem wasn't S.O.B., but a combination of S.O.B. and an unknown residual dose of Bad Wolf, resulting in a massive overdose that no amount of buffering could quell. Had he simply wiped off the Bad Wolf with some witch hazel, he might've had an excellent experience with the product, and a nice turn-around from the first day too.

This is the problem with short-term testing: too many mistakes are made. Many of us test for at least two weeks not only to generally be more thorough, but to ensure these mistakes can be ruled out on particular occasions. Bashing a product based on 3 days of (sloppy) testing is ridiculous enough, but to bash a vendor based on a single product not working? Let me say this about PXS: XS119 did absolutely *NOTHING* for me. I contacted Steve about it, and he offered to send me a free bottle of the next version! I had disappointing results with XiSt as well for the most part, but it all varies from person-to-person. Already knowing this, I kept on testing. Bliss and Evolve gave me *excellent* results, and with my latest purchase, I've been impressed with nearly everything I've tried so far. APi has proven itself a solid base mix, OdysseyXS is just incredible every time I use it, turning even the worst days around, and XSR37 now ranks as the best stand-alone single molecule I've ever used, beating out even my beloved Epiandrosterone. Desire Me Plus has had some pretty hilarious reactions, and the self-effects are amazing, better than high-dose P75! Loveboat hasn't given me much so far, but that's the only probable downfall from this order. The point? You have to adjust the mixes you use to your gender, target audience, ethnicity, environment, and perhaps most importantly, your intentions. Alpha360 only managed the last of these, but in foregoing all the previously mentioned factors, he failed to achieve any real results. Wearing high-dose -Androstenone mixes as a man who already likely produces a large amount of -Androstenone is bad enough, but to add on that residual Bad Wolf application? Disaster is the least you can expect. The other big mistake I'll mention was in his environment - Indonesia is an especially humid place, and wearing a scent as light as FXS is foolish. The S.O.B. most definitely overpowered the FXS in that kind of weather. Sultan's Oud or, better yet, a quality, strongly-projecting scent from, for example, Montale, would have avoided the second part of this disaster. It's a shame this member turned to arguing his poorly-formed delusions rather than trying to figure out just what he did wrong, and there were many things, most of which I've listed here.

I think enough have been said for his attitude, and I have no interest in writing another long paragraph describing that third and final part of the disaster. That attitude will get you no help on these forums but, just as importantly, it won't do you any favors with women, or men for that matter. Hopefully Alpha360 (now at Pheromone-Forum) will sort out his dilemma and figure out that he was dead wrong. Though he might never be welcome at these forums again, at the very least he may have some degree of success with women and learning how to properly use and combine pheromone mixes.

And slightly OT: Am I the only one who's had no problems with the PXS Euro droppers? It sounds like Alpha360 may have dosed far more than just a drop if he took the cap off beforehand as it appears he did. Still, it's hard to see how anyone has difficulty using this type of dropper unless the mix is entirely alcohol-based - it's really just a matter of shaking the bottle, flipping it over, then waiting for the desired number of drops to fall into the palm of one's hand. After this, I rub the mix all over my neck. This simple method has worked fine for me each and every time. It could be that most of us are just over-complicating things as we often do, but I for one find Steve's dropper bottles perfectly acceptable and have had no problems as yet.

"And slightly OT: Am I the only one who's had no problems with the PXS Euro droppers? It sounds like Alpha360 may have dosed far more than just a drop if he took the cap off beforehand as it appears he did. Still, it's hard to see how anyone has difficulty using this type of dropper unless the mix is entirely alcohol-based - it's really just a matter of shaking the bottle, flipping it over, then waiting for the desired number of drops to fall into the palm of one's hand. After this, I rub the mix all over my neck. This simple method has worked fine for me each and every time. It could be that most of us are just over-complicating things as we often do, but I for one find Steve's dropper bottles perfectly acceptable and have had no problems as yet."

I am a big fan of PXS, but I have now experienced 2 droppers where too much product was released or product leaked during shipping. This may just be the nature of the euro-dropper. Then there is the issue of viscosity of the product. Voodoo (bulb dropper) just gushes out, while other mixes are fine. PXS products are particularly vulnerable given the amount of mones in each drop.

Love the products, but we need a better application method (I've moved most of my mixes to bulb droppers).