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Very sceptical about 'mones, but willing to try & see for myself!
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11-07-2012 2:07 PM

Hi folks !

As the title says I'm really sceptical about pheromones, as I've not read a single scientific article that said this stuff worked (and I've read many...)
Yet the comments I've seen on this forum surprise me, so I've decided to try it out myself P
Bought LAL Overdose and Aqua Vitae, and I will soon add my own noob review here.

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11-07-2012 2:20 PM

(11-07-2012 2:07 PM)Electric_Blue Wrote:  Hi folks !

As the title says I'm really sceptical about pheromones, as I've not read a single scientific article that said this stuff worked (and I've read many...)
Yet the comments I've seen on this forum surprise me, so I've decided to try it out myself P
Bought LAL Overdose and Aqua Vitae, and I will soon add my own noob review here.

Regards,

E_B

There's plenty of peer reviewed info on androstadienone as a human pheromone. (Though admittedly there are more pheromones used by the community, and whose effects I will personally attest to, than there is backing for in the formal literature.)

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11-07-2012 2:37 PM

Thanks for the info! Smile And are there any products with "androstadienone" ? I found that Wolf, Aqua vitae or Overdose only contained androsteNone and androsteRone...
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11-07-2012 2:41 PM

(11-07-2012 2:37 PM)Electric_Blue Wrote:  Thanks for the info! Smile And are there any products with "androstadienone" ? I found that Wolf, Aqua vitae or Overdose only contained androsteNone and androsteRone...

There are many products that contain A1 and AV and OD do not only contain A-Androsterone ( and i doubt that they contain much None )

if you want A1 ... get the single molecule stuff ... pure stuff ...

do not make the mistake and think that a product that contains A1 will help you much in this regards ..

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11-07-2012 2:46 PM

You'll soon be a believer, don't worry. ;)

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11-07-2012 2:56 PM

Eheh... thanks guys!!! Smile
Pagodeiro this is a precious info to me. So you're saying better to avoid these products and go for the molecules? I'm gonna check in that section right away thank you ^^
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11-07-2012 3:03 PM

(11-07-2012 2:56 PM)Electric_Blue Wrote:  Eheh... thanks guys!!! Smile
Pagodeiro this is a precious info to me. So you're saying better to avoid these products and go for the molecules? I'm gonna check in that section right away thank you ^^

Also consider; most molecules have downsides as well as benefits. Many of the relaxing molecules will make it more difficult to concentrate on technical work. Too much alpha molecule and you get avoidance, fights, shit testing, etc.

Androstadienone can cause depression and avoidance in men.

Many mones stink like urine to people who can smell them (I can't) and require 'cover scents.' Some stink more than others.

The 'base note' musks in cologne and perfume are sometimes structurally similar to the mones we use. (Civetone and muscone are heterocyclic molecues which can assume the shape of various steroidal compounds.)

It's very helpful to learn what individual molecules do. That's a longer road requiring months of testing to tease out the subtle effects, but you end up with far more understanding at the end. Especially because you can see how different people react to different things.

Certo has androstadienone, but it isn't that highly rated. I think you're best off getting a product or single molecules and then adding androstadienone to it drop by drop (not with a spray). Max dose is ~70mcg. 10-30 mcg is reasonable. It takes up to 2 hours for full effects.

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11-07-2012 3:58 PM

Welcome! I second Fly So Hi's comment. Read, read, read and learn about the products available so you don't waste your hard earned $ on fluff and hype. You'll soon be a believer...you'll see Mrgreen

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11-07-2012 4:44 PM

Welcome to the forum!

Like fly said - you'll soon be a believer.

If you wanted a good Androstadienone based product I would suggest Cohesion-XS

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11-07-2012 5:04 PM

welcome to the forum. A1 is great. I have it in many blends and I use it most often as a single. The best I have used came from LAL.
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