Anyone encounter this before? After using pheromone I become less horny, lower sex drive although I can get an erection but the feeling of horniness is not there.

Is this the side effect? How do I overcome this?

(04-28-2015 12:03 AM)haggy Wrote:  Anyone encounter this before? After using pheromone I become less horny, lower sex drive although I can get an erection but the feeling of horniness is not there.

Is this the side effect? How do I overcome this?

I don't think you fear under heavy alpha mones.
Rather,
It seems your lethargy is from cumulated -dienone.
Heavy sexual products have -none that is converted to -dienone.

I guess you can try to clean the application points after you achieve your goal, hehe.

(04-28-2015 12:13 AM)harry.h.lee Wrote:  Heavy sexual products have -none that is converted to -dienone.

Wait
Did I read it that it is the other way, dienone converting to Androstenone on skin?

I do notice increased self-effects of Androstenone after hours of dienone application.

(04-28-2015 12:13 AM)harry.h.lee Wrote:  Heavy sexual products have -none that is converted to -dienone.

Cite a reference please.

(04-28-2015 12:57 AM)greengrenade Wrote:  Wait
Did I read it that it is the other way, dienone converting to Androstenone on skin?

I think its high heat that causes the A1 to convert to Androstenone, not skin bacteria as it is with nols.

Haggy,

*deep breath*

STOP RUNNING COMBOS!

No combo. I used standalone. Maybe I should avoid dienone for.now see if it is the cause.

Sorry haggy, got you mixed up with someone else, but yeah, take out the dienone and see what happens. I think dsouza mentioned his sex drive tanked when using dienone.

(04-28-2015 12:03 AM)haggy Wrote:  Anyone encounter this before? After using pheromone I become less horny, lower sex drive although I can get an erection but the feeling of horniness is not there.

Is this the side effect? How do I overcome this?

You may also want to check your Testosterone levels, but you're probably fine.

Here are a few ways to naturally raise T :

+ eat a carrot per day (Dr. Ray Peat claims that is can remove excess estrogen)

+ try intermittent fasting (can raise T very quickly) - an easy schedule is only eating between 12-8:00 (or any 6-8hr period)

+ check out anabolicmen (website with excellent free info on raising T)

+ Lift heavy things ('nuff said)

+ the basics (sleep+diet+exercise) - you've heard it a thousand times, but it actually makes a huge difference

+ be sure to get enough carbs - low carbs can lead to low T for some men

Testosterone is a mutherf*cker!!! This is why guys who juice almost never give it up, as having low T basically sucks the life out of you.

Good luck!

(04-28-2015 7:23 PM)kimosabe Wrote:  Sorry haggy, got you mixed up with someone else, but yeah, take out the dienone and see what happens. I think dsouza mentioned his sex drive tanked when using dienone.

Confused with "kangaroo"?

Nope. Someone else.