Cool, the next time when you wear 2 CORE 1 TITAN again, wet-mix 1 spray CORE with 1 spray TITAN on your skin and spread that out. I do this with CORE on one inner forearm and TITAN on the other, then bring both inner forearms together to mix and spread. Then the 2nd spray CORE goes on my neck or clavicle. For me, this seems to work even better than separate app point for all 3 sprays.

Looking forward to Wolf + TITAN report!

Hmm interesting!! Hopefully applying on forearms will lessen the self effects (away from the nose).

(04-14-2015 9:28 AM)raikahoken Wrote:  I can still see strong effects after 14 hours.

I stopped reading right here.

Reports are so subjective and people report what they perceive as truth.

There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth.
---Robert Evans. (2002).

Whatever rocks your boat man. I see lots of conflicting information about longevity. Some people say no mones last beyond 8 hours. Some report next day hits. Many people say none last very long on the skin. Who knows really? I try to keep an open mind as much as I can and observe.

(08-06-2015 7:55 AM)raikahoken Wrote:  Whatever rocks your boat man. I see lots of conflicting information about longevity. Some people say no mones last beyond 8 hours. Some report next day hits. Many people say none last very long on the skin. Who knows really? I try to keep an open mind as much as I can and observe.

It's not "what rocks my boat".

Unfortunately, subjective perception is what drives this site.

Although there seems to be no clear consensus on upper limits more reading will reveal to you that in general no mones last beyond 8 hours.

Since this is a subjective forum you will get longevity reports of anything from 4 hours-24 hours.

I've been testing pheromone mixes for years and have not seen any last for more that 7 hours.

Generally speaking Alcohol based mixes last about 2 hours max. Oil and alcohol mixes last about 2-3 hours. Silicone and gel based mixes last 4-5 hours max. There are variations in the time frames depending on the molecules used.

The well read poster knows that the Nol's burn off first being the lighter of the molecules and they may also know that A-Nol converts to Androstenone on the skin. There is proof of this in the form of a scientific formula somewhere on the old Lovescent forum.

Androstenone is sticky and the reports vary here also but many have said Androstenone lasts 13+ hours on their skin.

You aren't taking into account different skin types.

Yep I know about the a-nol conversion. I know it happens with Titan too. The respect hits I got at 14 hours is likely from none. Btw those are really short time frames. From what I read it's up to 4 hours from alcohol, around 8 hours from oil, and more than 8 hours from gel. It's pretty much a consensus that oils last longer than alcohol. Climate likely plays a big factor too. I haven't used oils and gels that much, but I typically get around 3 hours from alcohol.

But I agree it's pretty subjective. Anw thanks for sharing your experiences.

(08-06-2015 8:30 AM)raikahoken Wrote:  Yep I know about the a-nol conversion. I know it happens with Titan too. The respect hits I got at 14 hours is likely from none. Btw those are really short time frames. From what I read it's up to 4 hours from alcohol, around 8 hours from oil, and more than 8 hours from gel. It's pretty much a consensus that oils last longer than alcohol. Climate likely plays a big factor too. I haven't used oils and gels that much, but I typically get around 3 hours from alcohol.

But I agree it's pretty subjective. Anw thanks for sharing your experiences.

Most of this is not correct but anyway, thanks for the report.

Paradox, with all due respect I'm pretty sure you also have mentioned that after a few days products have no effects or different effects.
This is because these molecules do not wash off and lasts a lot longer than most people think.
They may mutate, but there is still something going on.
I always get very social effects the morning after which last most of the day.
I tested and plan for the next effect accordingly.

I was gonna say...

I have had so many day after hits that I realized it wasn't coincidence.

Mainly with Core, Dionysos and Aqua Vitae.

My most memorable one was the next day after Dionysos was a very well put together, gorgeous, mature white woman, blatantly flirting with me on the train. I had to double check to make sure this was really happening. And there she was, taking glances at me, blushing at the same time. We kept glancing at each other and smiling and I couldn't help but think, "If I wasn't with my son at the moment"... This would have been EASY. Because her blatant ioi, gave me the invitation!

A lot of these molecules do in fact last some time on the skin.