(08-01-2021 4:39 AM)Shahshane Wrote:  Hi Madara
Did you manage to get anything else apart from girl’s attention?

That’s a good question. Sometimes what you interpret as girl attention is just your fantasy. The only valid measurement point is about getting laid

(08-10-2021 6:14 PM)Jetebaise Wrote:  That’s a good question. Sometimes what you interpret as girl attention is just your fantasy. The only valid measurement point is about getting laid

im actually the opposite.

i have way higher standards then most mones users for what i count as a hit because i get tons of attention already without mones.

so a lot of things people count as hits i dont.

for example, girls staring or just looking i dont care at all about.

hits for me has to be things i never or rarely see without mones.

for example, things that have happened since clubs reopened = girls catcalling me from car as they drive by, super hot girl invites me to share her uber after meeting me on street at 3 am for 10 sec and then in the car immediatelly physically escalates on me by rubbing my legs close to my dick, girl literally performing a grab and go on me by grabbing me to drag me with her as she is exiting the club, etc....

i also get too many stares to count and also have girls directly approach me all the time; but i get these things without mones if i dress really well so i dont care about that and dont count them as hits.

(08-10-2021 6:14 PM)Jetebaise Wrote:  The only valid measurement point is about getting laid

I must also disagree with this statement. Anything notable off of one's non-pheromone-enhanced baseline is worthy of an effect.

For example, take a wallflower, introverted, socially-awkward young lad that is, for basic intents, invisible to ladies. He puts on pheromones and he gets conversation, attention, smiles, maybe even a date. This is a notable pheromone buff and, for that particular guy, it is like the clouds parted and the gods of passion shone down upon him.

The precept of "if she doesn't put out, then the pheromones aren't working" may hold true for you, but not for all. It definitely doesn't even begin to approach the breadth and depth of the storied and varied pheromone effects. To take it to reductio ad absurdum, if that is the only way to gauge pheromones, then ALL socials are crap.