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Spray to Oil transition
11-15-2009 4:28 PM

Hello everyone,

I'm trying to TAA oil, so I was wondering, If I buy TAA from AD, what concentration (mcg per spray) is it convenient to make the TAA Oil (15ml)????

I'm not good with pheromath (hehe)

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RE: Spray to Oil transition
11-15-2009 5:37 PM

I think you'd need to factor in more than the volume of oil. As oil would slow diffusion you might want to adjust the mix so the final concentration is higher than what you'd use with spray form TAA.

If you got a togo & added it to 10ml oil you'd be diluting the TAA concentration 1:2
What conc do you use in TAA spray now? I'd guess that if you normally use 12.5 mcg/spray you'd want to get a togo at least 3-4 times that conc (ie 50mcg) to compensate for dilution & converting to oil diffusion Smile
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11-15-2009 7:20 PM

I went through a very costly bottle of AD TAA oil and it was underwhelming compared to the far weaker and cheaper TAA spray. I don't recall the exactly mcg, but seems like it was 4 or 5 times that of Instant Shine. I'd never waste my money on TAA oil again.

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RE: Spray to Oil transition
11-15-2009 8:04 PM

(11-15-2009 7:20 PM)Gegogi Wrote:  I went through a very costly bottle of AD TAA oil and it was underwhelming compared to the far weaker and cheaper TAA spray. I don't recall the exactly mcg, but seems like it was 4 or 5 times that of Instant Shine. I'd never waste my money on TAA oil again.
I always wanted to try TAA oil but it went out of stock soon after I joined.
Since then the thought of converting other products to oil form is something that has often crossed my mind.

Have any of you tried adding a 4x-5x alcohol based product to 10-15ml of D5?

Thanks.
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11-15-2009 8:15 PM

I really think to be an effective dose, you'll want to buy mones in concentrated dry form and dissolve in oil. Further diluting an alcohol based product is pretty iffy.

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11-15-2009 8:33 PM

Figured as much, unfortunately my guess is that many companies would be reluctant to offer them in dry form (especially ones from a consumer line).
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11-15-2009 9:18 PM

Actually there are a few companies that sell dry mones and other raw materials for mone mixers. And not just in not in 50 pound bags! A few years back, during my homebrew faze, I actually bought a few. And, believe it or not, a couple of these chemical wholesalers are linked in a subforum in the "Where to Buy Pheromones" section. Contrary to what they would like you to believe, AD doesn't make everything from scratch. Of course, I haven't a clue what the components of TAA are but most common and some not so common mones are available in bulk.

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11-15-2009 10:48 PM

Thanks Gegogi,
this is definitely something to look into if I decide to attempt some D5 homebrews. Just hope that the bulk quantities are on the small/inexpensive side because anything I whip up will be in small batches.
Now all I need to do is find out the pheromone (other then A-nol) they put in IO.

Do you remember what site offers high quality dry mones?
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11-15-2009 11:05 PM

(11-15-2009 10:48 PM)LaPew Wrote:  Thanks Gegogi,
this is definitely something to look into if I decide to attempt some D5 homebrews. Just hope that the bulk quantities are on the small/inexpensive side because anything I whip up will be in small batches.
Now all I need to do is find out the pheromone (other then A-nol) they put in Instant Openness.

Do you remember what site offers high quality dry mones?

It is Beta Androstenol (16, (5α)-Androsten-3β-ol). But you will need to find out if these pheromones dissolve in the type of oil you are thinking of.

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11-15-2009 11:23 PM

(11-15-2009 11:05 PM)Diane999 Wrote:  It is Beta Androstenol (16, (5α)-Androsten-3β-ol). But you will need to find out if these pheromones dissolve in the type of oil you are thinking of.

Diane
I always thought IO was Alpha Androstenol plus an additive(s) and IH was similar but made with Beta Androstenol.
The type of oil I'm considering is Decamethylcyclopentasiloxane (D5) since it works quite well for LP's mixes and supposedly leaves a protective layer between the skin and pheromones.
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