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01-12-2019 5:54 PM

(01-11-2019 3:54 PM)abn1391 Wrote:  It was a couple of months before I found out about monsy. So a little more than a year ago. I did it about 5x. First thing is the self effects are similar to coke, euphoria mood elevation, increadible posture lasting 3 or 4 hours instead of 20 minutes. Also terrible bruxism the inside of my mouth would be chewed out by the end of the night.

As far as hits, you notice the dear in the headlights from pretty much everyone. Man and women. One night particular I was solo at a club and the first girl I talked to invited to sit at their vip table and drink with them. Later on the bartender told me I did not need to wait in line for a drink. He then invited me behind the bar. Hot women would move in my area even through I was just up against a wall checking my phone. Got opened many times. Eventually pulled a hot blonde without saying very much. I thought at the time it must have been my confidence but knowing what I know now there must be an effect on your pheremone signature. PEA is dopamine so high dopamine high status .

The day after was always hell though. High blood pressure headache, blisters in mouth, lethargic. It's obviously not worth it especially when mones are less of toll on the body.

I'd be interested in pea as a spray I've read those posts but it's been a dead thread for quite some time.

I read that imprint had pea in it. I tried it with an MAOI and did not notice anything special.

Legit results though I must the cons outweigh the pros. I've been reading up on it and there seems to be mixed sentiments about both substances. Maybe I'll get them to experiment.

Doses? If you don't mind.
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01-12-2019 6:09 PM

(01-12-2019 4:33 AM)GoergeFocky Wrote:  Interesting abn1391,

We simply cannot know what eventually is responsible for those effects. Exuded metabolites of the substances taken or "simply" their effects on our neurochemistry, then altering exuded semiochemicals. Dopamine at least is closel related to Trstosterone-Homeostatsis as we know. But maybe higher dopamine results in higher excreted dopa-metabolites that might be attractive or staus enhancing.

Also possible, while a bit "disappointing", is an altered selp-perception. Maybe nobody around you was really affected but you pereceived it differently. There was an interesting paper that alluded to such effects from inhaled copulins on males:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10...4916643328

Maybe a bit of both really.
It would also be interesting to see if such substances: Modafinil, Selegiline or PEA would be effective as aerosols on oneself and others. PEA has been experimented with already as you said.

Interesting theories. I don't know much about the chemical side of it, but I'll keep studying to try and figure it out. I agree with abn here. All I know is when my dopamine levels are high I get that status boost. I think something in my demeanor or vibe changes, but obviously I can't prove what's going on on a chemical level.

https://pherotruth.com/Thread-Bad-Wolf-S...t=Dopamine
That's a nice thread and I agree with the core philosophy by the OP. It fits with my own experiences. Also, it's not that different from what you said. High dopamine makes the individual believe they're higher status and being higher status raises dopamine as a form of status quo.
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01-12-2019 6:58 PM

(01-12-2019 6:09 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  Interesting theories. I don't know much about the chemical side of it, but I'll keep studying to try and figure it out. I agree with abn here. All I know is when my dopamine levels are high I get that status boost. I think something in my demeanor or vibe changes, but obviously I can't prove what's going on on a chemical level.

https://pherotruth.com/Thread-Bad-Wolf-S...t=Dopamine
That's a nice thread and I agree with the core philosophy by the OP. It fits with my own experiences. Also, it's not that different from what you said. High dopamine makes the individual believe they're higher status and being higher status raises dopamine as a form of status quo.

Yeah that's an interesting thread. I've long suffered from Anhedonia, which is probably a sign that I have low dopamine. A Genetic tests showed that I had high comt activity, comt degrades catacholamines, which seems to me to kind of high risk/reward. It seems like I've always struggled with addiction in some fashion or another. Video games, porn, sex, drugs(stims) kind of always itching for my next dopamine fix. At times where I have held a constant practice of dopamine sensitization ( meditation, nofap, intense cardio + weight lifting, healthy eating) my status goes up increadibly. People are nicer, woman are easier, and things sort of fall into place , not unlike what pheromones produce. Dopamine definitely plays a role in status.
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01-12-2019 7:03 PM

(01-12-2019 5:54 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  Legit results though I must the cons outweigh the pros. I've been reading up on it and there seems to be mixed sentiments about both substances. Maybe I'll get them to experiment.

Doses? If you don't mind.


I was taking selegiline @ 5mg a day for a few weeks (takes a few days/weeks to start inhibition of maoi-b) and took any where between .5 to 1.5g of pea. That's a lot of pea and more then you will probably find others have taken , however I am notorious for requirng high doses of anything to feel the effects of nootropics/supplements/drugs/mones.
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01-12-2019 8:15 PM

(01-12-2019 6:58 PM)abn1391 Wrote:  Yeah that's an interesting thread. I've long suffered from Anhedonia, which is probably a sign that I have low dopamine. A Genetic tests showed that I had high comt activity, comt degrades catacholamines, which seems to me to kind of high risk/reward. It seems like I've always struggled with addiction in some fashion or another. Video games, porn, sex, drugs(stims) kind of always itching for my next dopamine fix. At times where I have held a constant practice of dopamine sensitization ( meditation, nofap, intense cardio + weight lifting, healthy eating) my status goes up increadibly. People are nicer, woman are easier, and things sort of fall into place , not unlike what pheromones produce. Dopamine definitely plays a role in status.

This is good stuff. Your level of self insight is impressive. It's so important to figure what works for you as an individual. I've found lots of benefts from doing the keto diet and intermittent fasting. I do cardio in the morning, a few rounds on the heavy bag. Bone broth with chili powder and coffee + noots to start the day and a 3000 cal monster meal after work and gym. Big fan of beef liver, it's allegedly the most nutrient dense food. I've never felt better. Stronger in the gym too.

I've discredited meditation in the past, but that was probably premature. I don't know if you've heard of the Wim Hof method. I've been doing for a couple of weeks now, it's legit stuff. I feel really calm after the exercises and can hold my breath for 3 minutes now. It's crazy. https://youtu.be/A9zS94x2nd8 Check this out and try the breathing method if your curious.

Thanks for the doses. I'll keep you posted if I go for it. I think the noot that raises my dopamine levels the most is l-tyrosine, high dose 1 - 1.5g. I've tried a lot of stuff, but it's the one I keep going back to. I use it with alpha-GPC or ALCAR. I also add some stuff if I feel like it. I also tend to go for higher doses with noots, mones as well.
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01-12-2019 10:31 PM

(01-12-2019 8:15 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  This is good stuff. Your level of self insight is impressive. It's so important to figure what works for you as an individual. I've found lots of benefts from doing the keto diet and intermittent fasting. I do cardio in the morning, a few rounds on the heavy bag. Bone broth with chili powder and coffee + noots to start the day and a 3000 cal monster meal after work and gym. Big fan of beef liver, it's allegedly the most nutrient dense food. I've never felt better. Stronger in the gym too.

I've discredited meditation in the past, but that was probably premature. I don't know if you've heard of the Wim Hof method. I've been doing for a couple of weeks now, it's legit stuff. I feel really calm after the exercises and can hold my breath for 3 minutes now. It's crazy. https://youtu.be/A9zS94x2nd8 Check this out and try the breathing method if your curious.

Thanks for the doses. I'll keep you posted if I go for it. I think the noot that raises my dopamine levels the most is l-tyrosine, high dose 1 - 1.5g. I've tried a lot of stuff, but it's the one I keep going back to. I use it with alpha-GPC or ALCAR. I also add some stuff if I feel like it. I also tend to go for higher doses with noots, mones as well.

Yeah very much into the same life style haha! Names almost any noot I've tried it.

Been wanting to do intermittent fasting but just haven't been able to find hours that work for me. I've been doing wim Hoff as a sort of warm up to meditation. Wim Hoff really increases your awareness , which is the headspace you want to be in for meditation. I wouldn't sleep on meditation when my practice is consistent it head and shoulders above any noots.
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01-23-2019 7:32 AM

(01-12-2019 8:15 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  This is good stuff. Your level of self insight is impressive. It's so important to figure what works for you as an individual. I've found lots of benefts from doing the keto diet and intermittent fasting. I do cardio in the morning, a few rounds on the heavy bag. Bone broth with chili powder and coffee + noots to start the day and a 3000 cal monster meal after work and gym. Big fan of beef liver, it's allegedly the most nutrient dense food. I've never felt better. Stronger in the gym too.

I've discredited meditation in the past, but that was probably premature. I don't know if you've heard of the Wim Hof method. I've been doing for a couple of weeks now, it's legit stuff. I feel really calm after the exercises and can hold my breath for 3 minutes now. It's crazy. https://youtu.be/A9zS94x2nd8 Check this out and try the breathing method if your curious.

Thanks for the doses. I'll keep you posted if I go for it. I think the noot that raises my dopamine levels the most is l-tyrosine, high dose 1 - 1.5g. I've tried a lot of stuff, but it's the one I keep going back to. I use it with alpha-GPC or ALCAR. I also add some stuff if I feel like it. I also tend to go for higher doses with noots, mones as well.

(01-12-2019 10:31 PM)abn1391 Wrote:  Yeah very much into the same life style haha! Names almost any noot I've tried it.

Been wanting to do intermittent fasting but just haven't been able to find hours that work for me. I've been doing wim Hoff as a sort of warm up to meditation. Wim Hoff really increases your awareness , which is the headspace you want to be in for meditation. I wouldn't sleep on meditation when my practice is consistent it head and shoulders above any noots.

Im much the same as well!
Tried out a lot of noots over the years, but the ones I've been sticking to
(daily) for the past few years are l-tyrosine, ALCAR, bacope monnieri and Semax, when I can get my hands on it. I meditate as well, and I second abn1391 that a consistent practice beats any noots..

I've been doing intermittent fasting since early July also. MacCauley, how do you manage to get in that many calories? I recently started hitting the gym, and I'm a little worried that I might not be getting in enough calories to see any muscle gains. I try to eat a lot, but eating too in a short period of time puts me in a food coma and makes me super unproductive. Any tips?
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01-23-2019 7:02 PM

(01-23-2019 7:32 AM)juggernaut1 Wrote:  I've been doing intermittent fasting since early July also. MacCauley, how do you manage to get in that many calories? I recently started hitting the gym, and I'm a little worried that I might not be getting in enough calories to see any muscle gains. I try to eat a lot, but eating too in a short period of time puts me in a food coma and makes me super unproductive. Any tips?

I eat over 1kg of meat every day in different variations. Fatty cuts has more calories. Usually I start with a six pack of eggs, drink that as a post workout. Then I eat a couple of rib eye steaks with cooked spinach. I add fats like coconut and olive oil to the spinach and butter on my my steaks. I use a lot of boiling meat so I just put that in a slow cooker and let it roll for 8 hours or more with spices, some onion and carrots. Those meats are cheaper, as is beef liver. Then I also extract the broth onto jars so I can take it in the morning.

I also make my own sugar free chocolate. It's really easy and a great source for fats. All you need is 400g cocoa butter, 300g cocoa powder and some stevia drops. You can also add chili powder, sea salt or what have you. Chocolate is my go-to dessert. It's easy to make chocolate mousse too. Just whip powder with coconut cream and some stevia. Making beef jerky is also easy, also from ground beef. So if I get desperate during the day I eat jerky or chocolate before my monster meal. If I feel like I need carbs I eat mashed sweet potatoes.

That's pretty much my diet. As far as muscle mass the only nutrient which builds muscle is protein. I still gained muscle mass when I was in a caloric deficit which sounds counter intuitive, but it's real. Just make sure you eat enough to the point you're not walking around hungry. Hunger usually comes from a carb based diet because carbs are just empty fuel. If you're on a budget eat a lot of eggs and ground beef.

Intermittent fasting takes a bit of time to get used to. Most people are used to 3 meals a day. If you can't do the fast, that's fine. People are different. It also depends on your goals. Keto diet is for lean gains and takes a bit longer. If you just want to get big fast it's popular to do bulking and cutting cycles, but I'm not into that anymore. Too much stress on the body.
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01-25-2019 6:01 AM

(01-23-2019 7:32 AM)juggernaut1 Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 10:31 PM)abn1391 Wrote:  Yeah very much into the same life style haha! Names almost any noot I've tried it.

Been wanting to do intermittent fasting but just haven't been able to find hours that work for me. I've been doing wim Hoff as a sort of warm up to meditation. Wim Hoff really increases your awareness , which is the headspace you want to be in for meditation. I wouldn't sleep on meditation when my practice is consistent it head and shoulders above any noots.

Im much the same as well!
Tried out a lot of noots over the years, but the ones I've been sticking to
(daily) for the past few years are l-tyrosine, ALCAR, bacope monnieri and Semax, when I can get my hands on it. I meditate as well, and I second abn1391 that a consistent practice beats any noots..

I've been doing intermittent fasting since early July also. MacCauley, how do you manage to get in that many calories? I recently started hitting the gym, and I'm a little worried that I might not be getting in enough calories to see any muscle gains. I try to eat a lot, but eating too in a short period of time puts me in a food coma and makes me super unproductive. Any tips?

my favorites are noopept and oxiracetam.

as for intermitted fating, i have been doing it for 3 years now. i have gained about 7-8 kilos of muscle just the past 6 months.

id say the best way to reduce the food coma is fat and amino acids.
i take essetntial amino acids in powder form, around 30 grams during the fast.
its not breaking the fast to much and easy on my stomach (unlike protein powder). that way you have less protein to eat later in the day so its less tiring.
i would also say that if you can get between half an hour to an hour nappping after a big meal it will be great all around. no need to push youre body all the time, its not healthy.
i am trying to take less stimulants and get more naps for some time now and its better for the productivity.
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01-25-2019 7:26 AM

(01-25-2019 6:01 AM)Hombre Wrote:  my favorites are noopept and oxiracetam.

as for intermitted fating, i have been doing it for 3 years now. i have gained about 7-8 kilos of muscle just the past 6 months.

id say the best way to reduce the food coma is fat and amino acids.
i take essetntial amino acids in powder form, around 30 grams during the fast.
its not breaking the fast to much and easy on my stomach (unlike protein powder). that way you have less protein to eat later in the day so its less tiring.
i would also say that if you can get between half an hour to an hour nappping after a big meal it will be great all around. no need to push youre body all the time, its not healthy.
i am trying to take less stimulants and get more naps for some time now and its better for the productivity.

I had mediocre results with noopept until I tried it in liquid form. It made me a believer. Oxi is pretty good, but I think noopept is better.

You release more HGH when you do intermittent fasting so that explains your gains. I've gained about 2kgs, but then I weighed 87kgs when I started keto and intermittent fasting. I've gotten leaner and stronger though. Take fat loss into account I've gained 4-5 kgs lean mass in a year or so.

You're right about protein powder, most of them are low quality and bad for your guts. Whey protein is inferior to animal protein in every way. I noticed a huge difference when I quit drinking shakes and started eating more meat. Amino acids are genuine supps, but I don't think you need extra if you eat a ton of meat because it's already loaded with essential aminos. I used Beef Aminos by Univarsial Nutrition back in the day. It was good because it has the same ratio of aminos as real beef. I'd say fat is the best way to combat food coma, especially on a keto diet.

Quality sleep is so fucking important. It's amazing how many people neglect it. A short nap can literally save the day. I sleep like 9 hours a night, sometimes more. Stims obviously needs to be taken in the morning. I've noticed when I used modafinil I sleep like a baby at night. I'm not sure why, but it's something in it. Melatonin works pretty good for me too. I also sleep good on phenibut days.
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