I believe the reason it took so long for them to restock had nothing to do with the pheromonal composition, but more to do with changing the cologne, because if I recall correctly they were looking aswitching colognes, or have changed it.

(11-18-2009 10:21 AM)Wrlprchnx Wrote:  That's right... I didn't realize Tigerlilly dropped off the planet over at AD

Yeah, she's been gone since last June. Too bad, I really liked her.

(11-18-2009 1:22 PM)Mtnjim Wrote:  Yeah, she's been gone since last June. Too bad, I really liked her.

Yeah, I agree. I really liked her. She was a lot like Tisha....ballsy enough to always speak her mind even if it was stuff that wouldn't sit well with AD. Now that's integrity!

(10-10-2009 3:24 PM)Phya Wrote:  Whatever, I found that PT was flooded with more threads regarding self-esteem and 'oneitis' threads than useful pheromone reports. I really miss the gems that tacitus dropped, I wish he could come back.

Couldn't agree more, the quality of contributions has jumped off a cliff of late. One of the things I got eternally pissed off with was that several decent contributors would come along and post good reports and they would be largely ignored, whilst some other delusional 'user' would come along post an overly exaggerated post and get 10 pages worth of newbie worship. The problem then escalates as the newbs all assume they'll get the same only to be bitterly disappointed and ask why they aren't getting the same effects. And it's usually the decent posters who end up having to clean up the mess and offer grounded advice.

The tipping point for me came during the possibility of placebos in Catlords Mix, that caused a massive ruckus with denec (would be great to have him here, btw). I've said it previously, there is no frickin chance in hell that AD sell their MX's at a loss (the Pheromones sold at Dianes place pretty much proves it). The phony customer lovin' attitude was pretty much killed by their lack of transparency. Not only are they making a profit from their MX's they also shamelessly hype the living arse of out of them and make a quick buck in the process.

This might piss off a few of the members here but as far as I am concerned Steve is the worst perpetrator of this, don't get me wrong, he's damn good at it. His ICM mixes probably had people cleaning out the experimones section (yep, me too) and probably helped pay for the down payment on their swimming pools in the process. In all honesty I don't care if they ban/block or remove my reporting status. I've pretty much given up reporting their now and as for their products, the only products I would miss would be A314/Instant Shine and MX292 (but I have plenty of each so not overly bothered). Although, in terms of pherobombs, there are several products out their that consistently outperforms 292.

Furthermore, the fact they haven't released pheroproof or the formulas as promised is just sheer frustrating, further compounded by the fact they ignore or don't bother to respond to user's questions.

$1000...GC...can't lie, wish I was important enough to get one of those...that said, I don't think they have $1000 worth of stuff I would want to buy even at their bloated prices. As someone else pointed out in terms of raw mcg's AD have far less than their competitors.

Quote:Rattlesnake comments, "Couldn't agree more, the quality of contributions has jumped off a cliff of late. One of the things I got eternally pissed off with was that several decent contributors would come along and post good reports and they would be largely ignored, whilst some other delusional 'user' would come along post an overly exaggerated post and get 10 pages worth of newbie worship."

I still post a bit at PheroTalk and, unfortunately, you are spot on. And my posts do seem to be largely ignored. Feel a bit like I'm shouting into the wind. Also, the average age of posters has fallen considerably so perhaps I come off as "the man" to the average 19 year old.

(12-05-2009 9:45 AM)Rattlesnake Wrote:  The tipping point for me came during the possibility of placebos in Catlords Mix, that caused a massive ruckus with denec (would be great to have him here, btw). I've said it previously, there is no frickin chance in hell that AD sell their MX's at a loss (the Pheromones sold at Dianes place pretty much proves it). The phony customer lovin' attitude was pretty much killed by their lack of transparency. Not only are they making a profit from their MX's they also shamelessly hype the living arse of out of them and make a quick buck in the process.

The tipping point for me came when they let Catlord send in Essence of Woman so they could forumulate his mix. They talk about liabilities, legalities and such, but in truth accepting third party products from a customer to use in forumulating, then selling the product to other customers was incredibly stupid! He could have filled the bottles with cyanide or hydrochloric acid or anything else, and they would never have known, until it came back and bit them in the ass!

I never thought much of Catllord anyway, and his cocky and "I'm the almighty" attitude was just irritating to me. I stopped reading his posts and I never really believed anything he had to say when I saw a couple of his posts on mixes he was testing and he molecule amounts he claimed to use were far more accurate than could be achieved without laboratory grade equipment, which I don't believe he had.

And yeah, I agree it would be great to have Denec here, as well as a few others, but we're playing nice and not doing anything on other forums to try to steal away members, so unless and until they stumble upon us like you did, there's not not really much we can do to get them over here.

Funny how we're trying to play nice with everyone, and neither Love-Potions or Love-Scents have a problem with our existance. In fact, Mara from LP even offered to help us, yet Androtics considers us the Evil Empire!

Something I learned over the years is that those that scream the loudest about something or are always pointing fingers at someone else are usually the biggest perpetrator of whatever it is their bitching about!

(12-05-2009 9:52 AM)Rattlesnake Wrote:  $1000...GC...can't lie, wish I was important enough to get one of those...that said, I don't think they have $1000 worth of stuff I would want to buy even at their bloated prices. As someone else pointed out in terms of raw mcg's AD have far less than their competitors.

Yeah bloated prices. Exactly what I mentioned here and nobody seemed to post supportive comments so i found it weird. You're damn right about the MX series. Selling at a loss? LOL... What business would do that? MX is their milking cow and they will keep it that way and never release them to their Instant line. Also with such inflated prices they throw in free bottles which should be expected and the point system to suck you in to purchase from them in the future.

Look at Bruce at Love Scent. He gives occasional 20% discounts and the customer service is just like AD. No bullshit, just pheromones at their lowest price. I'm glad that Diane has come up with her wonderful store at the minimal price too.

(12-05-2009 11:36 AM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  The tipping point for me came when they let Catlord send in Essence of Woman so they could forumulate his mix. They talk about liabilities, legalities and such, but in truth accepting third party products from a customer to use in forumulating, then selling the product to other customers was incredibly stupid! He could have filled the bottles with cyanide or hydrochloric acid or anything else, and they would never have known, until it came back and bit them in the ass!

I never thought much of Catllord anyway, and his cocky and "I'm the almighty" attitude was just irritating to me. I stopped reading his posts and I never really believed anything he had to say when I saw a couple of his posts on mixes he was testing and he molecule amounts he claimed to use were far more accurate than could be achieved without laboratory grade equipment, which I don't believe he had.

And yeah, I agree it would be great to have Denec here, as well as a few others, but we're playing nice and not doing anything on other forums to try to steal away members, so unless and until they stumble upon us like you did, there's not not really much we can do to get them over here.

Funny how we're trying to play nice with everyone, and neither Love-Potions or Love-Scents have a problem with our existance. In fact, Mara from LP even offered to help us, yet Androtics considers us the Evil Empire!

Something I learned over the years is that those that scream the loudest about something or are always pointing fingers at someone else are usually the biggest perpetrator of whatever it is their bitching about!

Oh so you also found him annoying. I never liked his cocky attitude. Everytime he mentions "My calculators tells me" i just stop reading and close the tab. I seriously doubt he is really that good in formulating mixes. His PS mix i reckon is BS. Anyone tried it?

(12-05-2009 11:36 AM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  And yeah, I agree it would be great to have Denec here, as well as a few others, but we're playing nice and not doing anything on other forums to try to steal away members, so unless and until they stumble upon us like you did, there's not not really much we can do to get them over here.

Funny how we're trying to play nice with everyone, and neither Love-Potions or Love-Scents have a problem with our existance. In fact, Mara from LP even offered to help us, yet Androtics considers us the Evil Empire!

Thats very honourable The more companies you have the support of the better. If a company has the testicles to stand by their products on a fully uncensored forum it goes to show they take pride in their product(s) and that they produce decent products. Better still, feedback from this forum might even encourage them to tweak and improve their products.