(10-26-2017 9:37 PM)ps775 Wrote:  I get it a bit with titan too. Could it be the A-THDOC? Not sure what the dose is compared to other products but I get it with Evolve too (also has A-THDOC). Then again I only use Evolve for rooting so afterwards I’m a sleepy panda anyway.

Pure speculation though. And I love both products; maybe it’s because I relatively speaking I get a lot of stimulation from some other products so something that affects me less in this regard is more noticeable.

Your post struck a memory with me. I swear I remember reading something similar in one of the other threads. I'll have to see if I can find it when I get the chance (could be a bit, however.)

Didn't even read any posts here and I can already tell it's the androstenedione. Avoid androstenedione.

Or use sparingly on events where you are bound to get laid with it on. Otherwise use something else OR wash it off immediately after getting laid and apply DP under your nose.

This is what works for me because Taboo has androstenedione and the day after the date or lay I feel so introverted, quiet, no energy, and bed ridden. I read that someone apply DP and it raises testosterone, so I tried it and it works for me. Also.go to the gym regularly. And listen to positive/motivational shit all the time.

My 0.02

(10-25-2017 9:53 PM)Shadowx117 Wrote:  Any had this happen? Where you wore pheromones & it makes you sleep or lethargic? It's hard focusing at work when feeling this way. How do I fix this? Maybe using too much or possible burn out?

I'm aware of diet, exercise, sleep, & all that. I got those in check.

Pheromones use up your neurotransmitters. Don't use them daily, get good sleep, nutrition and take a good multi. That being said even when I do all the above Androstadienone still lays me out....

I learned very early on in this game to apply such products as far away from my own face as possible, and apply just a few minutes before due to meet your target, as opposed to hours before. Try to counteract by applying Cops, BW or AV (for example) just below your nostrils, often just 1/4 of a drop is enough. And if you travel by car, open the windows whenever possible!

@Dsouza, yes, good diet and multivitamins help, also Ginseng and Tongkat Ali.

I wore GOA as a work mone for 3 months, by the end, I was so tired that my eyes were bloodshot, I had to use Visene eye drops. Was accused of getting stoned during my lunch break.
I didn't attribute the lethargy to mones until other members also suffered the same.

(10-27-2017 12:04 PM)RussianWolf Wrote:  I wore GOA as a work mone for 3 months, by the end, I was so tired that my eyes were bloodshot, I had to use Visene eye drops. Was accused of getting stoned during my lunch break.
I didn't attribute the lethargy to mones until other members also suffered the same.

WOW. Do you recall what dose you were wearing? And were you wearing it solo or in combination?

(10-29-2017 1:07 PM)NuTrix Wrote:  WOW. Do you recall what dose you were wearing? And were you wearing it solo or in combination?

Hey Nutrix,
Yeah, I was wearing solo, but with a hefty dose; around 6-9 drops spread across wrists and forearms.

It really took a toll after awhile. It seemed to normally happen around lunchtime or post application by 5 hours. If I didnt' remember to put my eye drops in, they were red as shit. And I started yawning alot and going to bed early, like 9 pm. It took a couple weeks before my eyes got back to normal and I could stay up later.
I couldn't blame people at work for thinking I was stoned, it looked like i was.

The only draw back of dienone, I thought, was depression. Since I wasn't hit with that, I thought everything was cool.

But yeah, it wiped me out.

(10-25-2017 10:29 PM)Spider-mone Wrote:  which mones are making you tired? Androstadienone could be the culprit. L2k knocks me out.

So far Wolf & Corpo

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(10-27-2017 8:28 AM)dsouza Wrote:  Pheromones use up your neurotransmitters. Don't use them daily, get good sleep, nutrition and take a good multi. That being said even when I do all the above Androstadienone still lays me out....

I guess they call it the cuddle mone for a reason lol

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(10-27-2017 8:00 AM)Bodegaz Wrote:  Didn't even read any posts here and I can already tell it's the androstenedione. Avoid androstenedione.

Or use sparingly on events where you are bound to get laid with it on. Otherwise use something else OR wash it off immediately after getting laid and apply DP under your nose.

This is what works for me because Taboo has androstenedione and the day after the date or lay I feel so introverted, quiet, no energy, and bed ridden. I read that someone apply DP and it raises testosterone, so I tried it and it works for me. Also.go to the gym regularly. And listen to positive/motivational shit all the time.

My 0.02

What’s DP?

Dirty primitive by LAL

For me also the Androstadienone its "dangerous" as Bodegaz and RussianWolf said.I don't have GOA yet but all Androstadienone products put me down.Imprint its the most powerful for me.If i put 4 sprays in 10 minutes i need to sleep and i can't do anything to stop it.DP or any cops product under nose don't help me with Imprint.
I don't know if its the Androstadienone or another molecule in there that do this to me.I just need to use less, 2 sprays max.Thundr allready said that Imprint contain a molecule that can be overdosed.







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