OMG. So many similarities in these posts. I call it phero roulette.

So here is my crazy experience, I have tracked cycle, tracked various mones in small, medium, large doses, mixes etc.

The only close magic bullet that I have found is a vacation on the beach, some cocktails, adventures and no major pressures of obligations. And even that isn't consistent.

A little bit of backstory, I have had great success with early A314, NNPA, Copulins, Aqua Vitae, Alter Ego, at different times.

I've also been burned: "You smell like you want sex, so here it is"

In other words any pseudo-science tracking/controls were somewhat blown out the window because she associates my wearing scents with my "wanting it" and her reaction is now sometimes: "I know you want it because the way you smell, but I am just too tired."

What is weirder still is sometimes I'll get great reactions from say copulins and then others it seems like they are a big turn off...

In this case the subject is 50+ so add to the mix peri menopause and fluctuating hormones.

So I will have to say at this current time Evolve with titch of Cohesion seems to be doing the trick. Turn Up The Heat also seemed to work but only after things were pointed in that direction.

So I would say a couple drops of Evolve a couple or more hours before.

When the others seem to be failing, this one seemed to still work and by that I mean, it led eventually to some heat in the bedroom - but think slow burn.

When AV, New Pheromone Additive, A314 were on, that fast-n-dirty. But I cannot reliably duplicate anymore, so I am testing against cycle times. Evolve has seemed to work at various times of the month/cycle.

(05-11-2016 7:22 AM)Jimmycrack Wrote:  OMG. So many similarities in these posts. I call it phero roulette.

So here is my crazy experience, I have tracked cycle, tracked various mones in small, medium, large doses, mixes etc.

The only close magic bullet that I have found is a vacation on the beach, some cocktails, adventures and no major pressures of obligations. And even that isn't consistent.

A little bit of backstory, I have had great success with early A314, NNPA, Copulins, Aqua Vitae, Alter Ego, at different times.

I've also been burned: "You smell like you want sex, so here it is"

In other words any pseudo-science tracking/controls were somewhat blown out the window because she associates my wearing scents with my "wanting it" and her reaction is now sometimes: "I know you want it because the way you smell, but I am just too tired."

What is weirder still is sometimes I'll get great reactions from say copulins and then others it seems like they are a big turn off...

In this case the subject is 50+ so add to the mix peri menopause and fluctuating hormones.

So I will have to say at this current time Evolve with titch of Cohesion seems to be doing the trick. Turn Up The Heat also seemed to work but only after things were pointed in that direction.

So I would say a couple drops of Evolve a couple or more hours before.

When the others seem to be failing, this one seemed to still work and by that I mean, it led eventually to some heat in the bedroom - but think slow burn.

When AV, New Pheromone Additive, A314 were on, that fast-n-dirty. But I cannot reliably duplicate anymore, so I am testing against cycle times. Evolve has seemed to work at various times of the month/cycle.

I've found Evolve spray to be more effective than the oil in regards to a woman of a certain age where cycles are involved.

(05-11-2016 9:39 AM)Jimmy42 Wrote:  I've found Evolve spray to be more effective than the oil in regards to a woman of a certain age where cycles are involved.

Details?

(05-12-2016 9:01 PM)jb20 Wrote:  Details?

Woman hitting pre-menopause messed up all my pheromone experimenting. Products that were concrete reliable like evolve oil wasn't affecting her anymore. I switched to evolve spray and it hits her over the head almost instantly. I use 2 sprays to upper chest since I am mid-forties. My testing has always found the menstruation cycle as a big factor as to when/how effective mones hit. So it appears even more so with menopause.

My wife was very similar, but NOW we have turned a corner....

Don't know if this will work for you, but Androsterone blends with copulins are getting so much attention that I actually need a break. Titan and Captain + Copulins are the ones that have been working for me lately.

She is asking for it now....Trying to get it when I'm sleeping.....All stuff she didn't do before.

I'm early 40's and she is late 30's....I've been wearing pheromones for almost 4 years and didn't really "get it" until now.

Wolf would make her playful, but it made me tired all the time....Captain alone makes her the most submissive (she is not the submissive type, by nature)....when I add the copulins, it gets her going. Titan too, but she is not submissive when I have that on.

Just the copulins alone seem to get her attention. Let me say that Passion Copulin Concentrate is easier to work with for a newbie than Essence of Woman ...I have both and Essence of Woman kicks my ass with that funk...Takes closer to 30+ minutes for it to dry down on me....unless I get in front of the fan.

As you know, you may have to experiment to find out what she likes. My friend tried Evolve (which seems to turn on other women around me, but not my wife) and he got headaches and it did not turn on his wife (but it did turn on his coworker at a convention).

Oh yeah, my wife knows that I'm wearing them and doesn't believe that they work...She keeps saying that she is getting more sleep and that is doing it....She used to stay at home when we didn't have kids and she wasn't this fired up, so I'm not buying that.....but whatever. When I take a phero break...things go back to normal....Last irony: She thinks Androsterone stinks, but she doesn't think copulins stink when I wear them. Hmmmm.

(05-13-2016 1:10 PM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  My wife was very similar, but NOW we have turned a corner....

Don't know if this will work for you, but Androsterone blends with copulins are getting so much attention that I actually need a break. Titan and Captain + Copulins are the ones that have been working for me lately.

She is asking for it now....Trying to get it when I'm sleeping.....All stuff she didn't do before.

I'm early 40's and she is late 30's....I've been wearing pheromones for almost 4 years and didn't really "get it" until now.

Wolf would make her playful, but it made me tired all the time....Captain alone makes her the most submissive (she is not the submissive type, by nature)....when I add the copulins, it gets her going. Titan too, but she is not submissive when I have that on.

Just the copulins alone seem to get her attention. Let me say that Passion Copulin Concentrate is easier to work with for a newbie than Essence of Woman ...I have both and Essence of Woman kicks my ass with that funk...Takes closer to 30+ minutes for it to dry down on me....unless I get in front of the fan.

As you know, you may have to experiment to find out what she likes. My friend tried Evolve (which seems to turn on other women around me, but not my wife) and he got headaches and it did not turn on his wife (but it did turn on his coworker at a convention).

Oh yeah, my wife knows that I'm wearing them and doesn't believe that they work...She keeps saying that she is getting more sleep and that is doing it....She used to stay at home when we didn't have kids and she wasn't this fired up, so I'm not buying that.....but whatever. When I take a phero break...things go back to normal....Last irony: She thinks Androsterone stinks, but she doesn't think copulins stink when I wear them. Hmmmm.

Titan already has cops in it. So you add even more?

(05-13-2016 2:07 PM)Vincent_Vega Wrote:  Titan already has cops in it. So you add even more?

Sometimes, yes....I wear extra with Titan. I wore some today with Captain and had lunch with one of my female test subjects. IE...She knows that I wear pheromones. She has a boyfriend and likes giving me feedback.

She is hispanic and 25 years old....She really likes Captain and today I introduced her to Captain + Copulins.

She thinks Captain is sexy and mature and she gets a bit wet. She got a 7 in wetness today with Captain + Copulins.

She sat there for lunch and had to go put in a panty liner.

Light headed at first and then she was excited. She was so embarassed that she called me after we finished eating to tell me the details.

She said that she wanted to sit on my lap while we ate...Her mind was imagining fucking me and she could not really keep eye contact.

All I could tell eating across from her was the she had dilated pupils, she moved a bit in her seat, and at one point she left and went to the ladies room (panty liner).

She asked me if I got horny and I did not get horny at all...Titan copulins+ makes me horny right away....When I put on copulins separately, it takes a day or more before I get horny....Maybe Thundr has copulins and P83 in Titan.

She now wants some for herself and her boyfriend. So I believe this combo could excite a wife...

Last part: She did not seem to think that the Copulins were stinky, but just like my wife, she thought that the Captain application was musky...but she likes that. She also thought, at first, that wearing copulins was nasty...until them panties got so wet...and then she wanted some.

@DarkLord: It's funny how I used cops with my SO even if everybody says that you shouldn't because it could backfire. For the first time in months, she initiated. And now, one day later, I see you here recommending to use cops with wifey and I totally agree.
Maybe not drops of DM or Essence of Woman , but some diluted drops can definitely generate a subconscious jealousy, which will make her try harder to 'keep' you.

(05-13-2016 5:26 PM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  Sometimes, yes....I wear extra with Titan. I wore some today with Captain and had lunch with one of my female test subjects. IE...She knows that I wear pheromones. She has a boyfriend and likes giving me feedback.

She is hispanic and 25 years old....She really likes Captain and today I introduced her to Captain + Copulins.

She thinks Captain is sexy and mature and she gets a bit wet. She got a 7 in wetness today with Captain + Copulins.

She sat there for lunch and had to go put in a panty liner.

Light headed at first and then she was excited. She was so embarassed that she called me after we finished eating to tell me the details.

She said that she wanted to sit on my lap while we ate...Her mind was imagining fucking me and she could not really keep eye contact.

All I could tell eating across from her was the she had dilated pupils, she moved a bit in her seat, and at one point she left and went to the ladies room (panty liner).

She asked me if I got horny and I did not get horny at all...Titan copulins+ makes me horny right away....When I put on copulins separately, it takes a day or more before I get horny....Maybe Thundr has copulins and P83 in Titan.

She now wants some for herself and her boyfriend. So I believe this combo could excite a wife...

Last part: She did not seem to think that the Copulins were stinky, but just like my wife, she thought that the Captain application was musky...but she likes that. She also thought, at first, that wearing copulins was nasty...until them panties got so wet...and then she wanted some.

May we have your dosages and application points, please?

(05-13-2016 6:00 PM)Vincent_Vega Wrote:  @DarkLord: It's funny how I used cops with my SO even if everybody says that you shouldn't because it could backfire. For the first time in months, she initiated. And now, one day later, I see you here recommending to use cops with wifey and I totally agree.
Maybe not drops of DM or Essence of Woman , but some diluted drops can definitely generate a subconscious jealousy, which will make her try harder to 'keep' you.

1. My wife knows I wear them, but she still accuses me of cheating....I think you have to tell her so that she doesn't really think you are fooling around.

2. Makes me confident as hell...Terry was right about copulins. I was afraid of them before, but now I bath in them. Pussy is Life and Life is Pussy....

(05-13-2016 6:17 PM)MMM Wrote:  May we have your dosages and application points, please?

1 spray of Titan or Captain...Not sure how much copulins because it is a roller ball...I put the Copulins on my arm like Terry suggests. Crook of elbow and wrist....when I'm wearing short sleeves.....Chest when i'm wearing long sleeves.....I go crazy rolling it on, so not precise at all...I use more Passion Copulin Concentrate than Essence of Woman because it takes so long to dry down and it really does smell...I like the smell, but it makes me worry about others.