(04-16-2022 2:44 PM)Med Wrote:  Is this combo good for a first date? I'm thinking to try NAG 1/3 tester pump + 3drops VD. Date is for long term relation, my aim is to imprint and give some relaxation with VD while having the sexual attracrion of NA. Or Would it be better to use VD by itself to not ruin a potential long term relation?

I've almost never had luck with NA on first dates. I've had better dates with Nude + None combo.
Except for once when I combined NA with old N.PA and Imprint. Which led to a F close on the second date.
Tbh NA alone seems to be too serious.
Total different story though if I already know the girl and have met her before...from my experience it works a little too well in that scenario lol

NA is great but there are better products out there for first dates. Can't say much about Voodoo as I have not tested it enough, although I have a feeling it might have contributed to me being friendzoned by a girl I knew.

Thanks for sharing your experience Scorpio69. I ended up using NAG alone and hadn't received your reply by then. You are right NAG was a bit too serious but I tried to keep the conversation fun. I would have gone with Nude as many others suggest Nude alone for first date. I'm ordering some now.

I wore VD:NA last night 1 drop VD : 2 drops NA covered with 1 million.

I found VD made NA less serious.

I find NA made VD less fun.

Overall I didn't like mixing them. I was very tired and listless in 2 hours time.

With VD solo or NA solo I don't get this effect.

I talked about my experience briefly in today's journal post.

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NA is good for comfort and seduction phases, but it will take a long time from attraction to comforts. to pass through attraction you need good first date mones that is light on sexual with primarily social like tabooxs, then on second date you wear NA+ social+A1 to makes her feel comfortable to have sex with you.

(04-24-2022 10:28 AM)pheromoney Wrote:  NA is good for comfort and seduction phases, but it will take a long time from attraction to comforts. to pass through attraction you need good first date mones that is light on sexual with primarily social like tabooxs, then on second date you wear NA+ social+A1 to makes her feel comfortable to have sex with you.

Yes , this exactly.

NA is not the best pickup product.

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(04-25-2022 3:29 AM)dsouza Wrote:  Yes , this exactly.

NA is not the best pickup product.

Yeah I can see that. Tested NA on about 20 girls at the beach and mall. Mostly 20 something, foreign and American. 2 or 3 late 20s or early 30s.

I did get a bonding experience (when I didnt OD) but perhaps the Alpha-ness was too much, because the number ghosting was high (I did get legit numbers though).

Going to buy NUDE and try that...

(04-24-2022 10:28 AM)pheromoney Wrote:  NA is good for comfort and seduction phases, but it will take a long time from attraction to comforts. to pass through attraction you need good first date mones that is light on sexual with primarily social like tabooxs, then on second date you wear NA+ social+A1 to makes her feel comfortable to have sex with you.

I'm curious, on the 2nd date, you dont list any mones that are a bit more sexual like Evolve or M3x. Why is that? Or is the NA good enough for that?

So basically what you said is:

1st date or approach: NUDE, Taboo, etc socials
2nd date: same social as before + A1, and NA (or something that is more sexual)?