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Lust, Attraction and Attachment (chemically speaking)
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Lust, Attraction and Attachment (chemically speaking)
01-03-2019 3:31 PM

Saw this article and don't know if it was posted earlier. It is from '17.

I find it fascinating and hope you do too. It tries to break down chemically what is happening with lust, attraction and attachment.

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01-03-2019 3:58 PM

Good and succinct read. thanks for sharing that.

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01-03-2019 4:23 PM

Very interesting read. Thanks for sharing!

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01-03-2019 4:58 PM

(01-03-2019 3:58 PM)Gladen Wrote:  Good and succinct read. thanks for sharing that.

(01-03-2019 4:23 PM)Snoopyace Wrote:  Very interesting read. Thanks for sharing!

No problem....I was thinking about TLG as I was reading the article. While there is no one molecule in TLG that I associate with disinhibition, something in it makes that happen.

The boobing is stronger than vintage AV.
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01-03-2019 5:11 PM

(01-03-2019 4:58 PM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  
(01-03-2019 4:23 PM)Snoopyace Wrote:  Very interesting read. Thanks for sharing!

No problem....I was thinking about TLG as I was reading the article. While there is no one molecule in TLG that I associate with disinhibition, something in it makes that happen.

The boobing is stronger than vintage AV.

There is a combination of things at play there. The Est, the androstedienone, and the beta-androstenol all work together in that regard.

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01-03-2019 6:38 PM

Cool article.

The format threw me a bit when I was expecting something a little different from a Harvard.edu site, however the fluff was surrounded by enough decent content.

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12-11-2019 4:10 PM

(01-03-2019 3:31 PM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  Saw this article and don't know if it was posted earlier. It is from '17.

I find it fascinating and hope you do too. It tries to break down chemically what is happening with lust, attraction and attachment.

Link below:

Lust, Attraction and Attachment (chemically speaking)

Thank you for this article! I'm just getting started in really trying to understand what the hell is going on with pheromones and this article gave me a great way to frame things. And how to think about how different chemicals may function with respect to different 'sliders'.

Three baskets:
1. Lust
2. Atraction
3. Attachment

In your veteran experience do you think these are good baskets to frame things in or should I be thinking about this in some different way?
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12-11-2019 4:39 PM

(12-11-2019 4:10 PM)Grok Wrote:  Thank you for this article! I'm just getting started in really trying to understand what the hell is going on with pheromones and this article gave me a great way to frame things. And how to think about how different chemicals may function with respect to different 'sliders'.

Three baskets:
1. Lust
2. Atraction
3. Attachment

In your veteran experience do you think these are good baskets to frame things in or should I be thinking about this in some different way?

Not op but what has helped me tremendously was realizing that the pheromones are amplifiers. We produce them natrualy but for a multitude of reasons we do not produce them as strongly as wearing them artificially. Though I'd bet that someone who is high status ranking in society produces stronger pheromones. We know that dopamine is linked to high status behavior, probably also effects are signature... PEA isn't a pheromone, it's close to dopamine in structure and you've also experienced hits from that( in my experience stronger then any pheromone product).

Think of them as amplifying your own signature. This is where congruencey becomes an issue. If you put on a sexual people will be getting a strong sexual vibe off you however of you don't match that behavior then you'll get some weird reactions.

This happens to me with socials & alphas. Interestingly If I go out wearing a lot of nols women don't even acknowledge my presence it's hilarious in person. While working with alphas I get lost, people like me more but I just don't have interest in playing status games, and even if I wanted to I don't have the behavior to. Both are just fighting my natrual signature & personality. My behavior has always been introverted, direct and sexual, I like having fun and not being too serious when I'm out but I'm not the comforting nice guy, neither am I the dominant alpha. Sexuals shine for me.

Personality & pheromones are tied together.
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12-12-2019 12:56 AM

(12-11-2019 4:10 PM)Grok Wrote:  Thank you for this article! I'm just getting started in really trying to understand what the hell is going on with pheromones and this article gave me a great way to frame things. And how to think about how different chemicals may function with respect to different 'sliders'.

Three baskets:
1. Lust
2. Atraction
3. Attachment

In your veteran experience do you think these are good baskets to frame things in or should I be thinking about this in some different way?

I do think that these are good baskets. As you get more experience, the nuance comes into play.
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12-12-2019 6:40 PM

(12-11-2019 4:39 PM)abn1391 Wrote:  Not op but what has helped me tremendously was realizing that the pheromones are amplifiers. We produce them natrualy but for a multitude of reasons we do not produce them as strongly as wearing them artificially. Though I'd bet that someone who is high status ranking in society produces stronger pheromones. We know that dopamine is linked to high status behavior, probably also effects are signature... PEA isn't a pheromone, it's close to dopamine in structure and you've also experienced hits from that( in my experience stronger then any pheromone product).

Think of them as amplifying your own signature. This is where congruencey becomes an issue. If you put on a sexual people will be getting a strong sexual vibe off you however of you don't match that behavior then you'll get some weird reactions.

This happens to me with socials & alphas. Interestingly If I go out wearing a lot of nols women don't even acknowledge my presence it's hilarious in person. While working with alphas I get lost, people like me more but I just don't have interest in playing status games, and even if I wanted to I don't have the behavior to. Both are just fighting my natrual signature & personality. My behavior has always been introverted, direct and sexual, I like having fun and not being too serious when I'm out but I'm not the comforting nice guy, neither am I the dominant alpha. Sexuals shine for me.

Personality & pheromones are tied together.

Thank you for the insight bro. I particularly found this last paragraph helpful.

I can see how you must act in congruence with a pheromone that you are wearing or you will have a weird and possibly bad effect.

I found that with wearing TKO woman are dumping sexual innuendos on me faster than I am used to. I could see how if I missed the signals and wasn't able or willing to act on it their enhanced emotion might backfire on me if and when the sexual advance was declined (or missed!).

This is such an interesting thing to be a part of. It really shows you unique experiences as you get to 'stand in the shoes' of a completely different persons signature and see how they would experience the world.
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