Here's a link to a recent abstract that discusses perception of androstenone (and androstadienone). I don't recall ever reading about a trigeminal component, but that doesn't mean it's unlikely.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre...d_RVDocSum

James V. Kohl
http://www.pheromones.com

(08-18-2009 11:09 PM)Diane999 Wrote:  

(08-18-2009 8:51 PM)jvkohl Wrote:  Do you mean that you get a trigeminal effect, like with ammonia?

JVK

(08-17-2009 1:55 AM)Diane999 Wrote:  I'll have to try to look up the studies showing that a certain portion of the population reacts as I do to androstenone... it triggers the nerves even before it can trigger the olfactory systems.

And yes, that is exactly what is happening.

Diane

I've ordered from Love Scent several times and it's been nothing but a positive experience.
Since they are a vendor and not a manufacturer their pheromones run the gamut of effectiveness.
But with a little research you should be able to pick out the better ones easily enough.

My current stash from them is Essence of Woman , Liquid Trust, Scent of Eros gel packs, Chikara gel packs, and New Pheromone Additive/m/w.
Scent of Eros seems promising and as you can see jvkohl stands by his product.
However more tests need to be run before a real opinion can be made on any of them.

I'll see if I can find the link or links.

Diane

Just FYI. Love-Scent was the first place I really made any pheromone purchases from, and as far as I can tell everything they offer has been 100% legit. No scam stuff there.

Like all pheromone products, some work for some people, others don't. And of course you have to learn how to use them properly. Gegogi may be able to bathe in Primal Instinct without a problem, but for others even a small drop can cause near disaster. It's often cases like these or other misunderstandings that get some "scam" stories started.

I have no problem whatsoever recommending Love Scent as a vendor. The only other vendors I've used are Androtics Direct and Love Potions Magical Perfumerie and they too are 100% in my book. I have found some products I personally can't stand (one from LPP just smelled absolutely awful to me...), but content-wise I have no doubt of quality.

My opinions.

Just for the record, I think Phya's use of the word 'Scam' was in response to an early discussion on boosting our google visibility. "Pheromone scam" ranks high on searches that people perform. I guess the original context has been buried in other threads. Love Scent is a great place to get 'mones from.

(11-02-2009 5:42 PM)renny Wrote:  Just for the record, I think Phya's use of the word 'Scam' was in response to an early discussion on boosting our google visibility. "Pheromone scam" ranks high on searches that people perform. I guess the original context has been buried in other threads. Love Scent is a great place to get 'mones from.

Yes, that's exactly what the intention was. Thanks renny for clearing it up

(11-02-2009 5:42 PM)renny Wrote:  Just for therecord, I think Phya's use of the word 'Scam' was in response to anearly discussion on boosting our google visibility. "Pheromonescam" ranks high on searches that people perform. I guess the originalcontext has been buried in other threads. Love Scent is a great placeto get 'mones from.

(11-02-2009 6:42 PM)Phya Wrote:  Yes, that's exactly what the intention was. Thanks renny for clearing it up

Man, and there I go answering in earnest.
What a Scam...