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L2K NOS 2018
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RE: L2K NOS 2018
06-27-2018 5:39 AM

(06-27-2018 5:13 AM)dsouza Wrote:  ... m3x seems superior and pulls 21-40 year olds and it's as close to game in a bottle as I've ever witnessed-- firsthand.

I am inclined to agree, as this has been my experience with M3X as well. It's only drawback is the 'delayed effect'....sometimes the target simply won't stay in the cloud as long...especially on cold approach.

However, I do understand that you prefer the dating app setups...and during a date which mostly does last more than 20 - 30 minutes, M3X has the necessary time to have an effect.
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06-27-2018 3:54 PM

Hey Stefdude, would you recommend scented or unscented?

i have the new AM in L&S and love it so far, but its a bit intimidating for the younger girls in my classes. I'm thinking L2k would be perfect for them to start up with given what i've been reading, but i'm not sure whether to go scented or unscented.

I know when i use a spray of core and a spray of imprint, have them both in Fury, its too much. I'm sitting in class no more than a couple feet away from some people, so I dropped it to 1 spray of imprint, but i get the feeling thats not hitting hard enough, so i'll be switching over to unscented for those in the future, maybe holding onto the scented but grabbing an unscented and using both for my apps.

Anyway whats your take on this? I'm thinking black spice if anything
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RE: L2K NOS 2018
06-27-2018 5:01 PM

(06-27-2018 5:39 AM)TheManInTheFedora Wrote:  I am inclined to agree, as this has been my experience with M3X as well. It's only drawback is the 'delayed effect'....sometimes the target simply won't stay in the cloud as long...especially on cold approach.

However, I do understand that you prefer the dating app setups...and during a date which mostly does last more than 20 - 30 minutes, M3X has the necessary time to have an effect.

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06-28-2018 4:12 AM

(06-27-2018 3:54 PM)arrhenius Wrote:  Hey Stefdude, would you recommend scented or unscented?

i have the new AM in L&S and love it so far, but its a bit intimidating for the younger girls in my classes. I'm thinking L2k would be perfect for them to start up with given what i've been reading, but i'm not sure whether to go scented or unscented.

I know when i use a spray of core and a spray of imprint, have them both in Fury, its too much. I'm sitting in class no more than a couple feet away from some people, so I dropped it to 1 spray of imprint, but i get the feeling thats not hitting hard enough, so i'll be switching over to unscented for those in the future, maybe holding onto the scented but grabbing an unscented and using both for my apps.

Anyway whats your take on this? I'm thinking black spice if anything

L&S is a light scent, don't worry about it.At 2 sprays with silicone L2K (old one) it was just a light cologne, you could put more if you wanted to (not recommended).If you like it buy it, nothing changes in terms of how effective it is.

They've done studies you know...60% of the time, it works every time
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06-28-2018 10:13 AM

(06-28-2018 4:12 AM)stefdude Wrote:  L&S is a light scent, don't worry about it.At 2 sprays with silicone L2K (old one) it was just a light cologne, you could put more if you wanted to (not recommended).If you like it buy it, nothing changes in terms of how effective it is.

Thanks man, are all their scents light? i was gonna switch it up for L2K if i went scented.
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06-28-2018 1:37 PM

(06-28-2018 10:13 AM)arrhenius Wrote:  Thanks man, are all their scents light? i was gonna switch it up for L2K if i went scented.

L&S and the the Spice one (similar to Spice Bomb) are not that light in my opinion. They can be covered but you will still get nuances of the underlying cover scent.

Also, for slight clarification, the 2018 version is basically anything this year or anything after the website relaunch? I assume same thing, but I just want to make sure as I was one of the first buyers after the relaunch, and I have only been using Corpo (quite successfully I might add).
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06-30-2018 1:45 PM

I actually found an old post by Chris regarding the differences of both L2K v1 and v2:

(08-14-2013 8:53 PM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  Allow me to chime in here from my perspective...L2K version 1 & 2 are both different from a straight mix of Glace & AM.

L2K v1 is basically a 3:2 ratio of Glace/AM, with exaggerated confidence boosting/fun/upbeat vibe of Glace: it's got more
molecule A, more DHEAS, and a few other differences from a straight up mix of Glace/AM. On the AM side, there's more
androstadienone (20% more than AM).

So L2K v1 = 66% Glace with exaggerated social/fun qualities, and 33% Alfa Maschio with 20% more Androstadienone.

L2K v2 is a the same 3:2 (66% and 33%) ratio, with 66% going to Glace which has had molecule A completely eliminated (as
it has beta-qualities), and has 33% Alfa Maschio with more Androstenone and Androstanone. Plus the same 20% more
Androstadienone, and a similar increase in DHEAS.

So it is really a strange hybridization of Glace and Alfa Maschio, with magnified elements of either Glace or AM;
L2K v.1 = Glace on steroids/Beefed up AM;
L2K v.2 = being Glace (lacking beta/femininity) and Alfa Maschio on steroids.

Neither is like straight up Glace + AM. That's really the best way I can explain it from the design end.

The only difference is the Androstenone being used, as we already know that it comes from a new supplier. The 2018 versions are now using an alcohol base instead of silicone base for faster diffusion. My guess is that Chris found a way to make the formulas with the Androstenone change work as close as the vintage versions did results wise, by switching from silicone base to alcohol.
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07-01-2018 9:39 AM

(06-30-2018 1:45 PM)DssMaster Wrote:  I actually found an old post by Chris regarding the differences of both L2K v1 and v2:


The only difference is the Androstenone being used, as we already know that it comes from a new supplier. The 2018 versions are now using an alcohol base instead of silicone base for faster diffusion. My guess is that Chris found a way to make the formulas with the Androstenone change work as close as the vintage versions did results wise, by switching from silicone base to alcohol.

Perhaps, but why would he still buy androstenone from that source?Maybe that was a change that were to happen since quite some people had diffusion problems with silicone.

They've done studies you know...60% of the time, it works every time
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07-01-2018 11:15 AM

There sure are a LOT of MAYBEs going on when it comes to AD these days! Razz

I do know one thing, AD sure is in the PHEROTRUTH NEWS a lot lately. I'd have no problem with that if their products turned heads like those of old. Stefdude, you make me nervous with all the reporting and protecting you've been doing, but I went on and ordered AM and LIIK anyway! Razz

Just letting you know, it I don't get decent hits, I'm going out and stand in front of WalMart with a sign that reads, "DO NOT TRUST STEFDUDE!" And your name will be dirt. So you'd have to come back with a new name. Like, DataDragon or Stefdude or Mark-in-Dallas or something. Clapping Just kidding about the Mark-in-Dallas, tho! Vampire

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07-01-2018 11:15 AM

@ stefdude: Because he made it quite clear that his old source of Androstenone had stopped production, so he had no other choice but to find a new source.
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