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Is there a connection between products that disinhibit and being seen as feminine
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Is there a connection between products that disinhibit and being seen as feminine
11-03-2016 2:24 PM

The title says it all really.

Just think about it why would any woman come on to a MAN? I'm not talking about a male, but a MAN.

The only time they would is if they perceived him as somewhat feminine in character, a pushover, or beta in some way.


What do you think?

I am not saying the above statement is the truth but I'd like to discuss it.

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11-03-2016 2:34 PM

Do you have any specific products or putatives you'd be interesting in discussing?

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11-03-2016 2:42 PM

Theory: being so disinhibitor and comfortable around a male makes women feel like he's one of the girls.

I've had minimal experience with disinhibitors, used P83 a few times so can't chime in on experiences.

/bro-science

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11-03-2016 2:57 PM

Unless the disinhibitor is paired with inherently female molecules, then no connection exists. Disinhibitors bring out preexisting thoughts and behaviors, and may encourage others to act on them. Interest is not inherently, nor is a woman's expression of interest. What matter are the specific nature of that interest and how you choose to respond.
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11-03-2016 2:58 PM

I think this effect occurs when a product incites the "truth serum" effect. Women get disinhibited and see you as a friend and you feel like you are taking on a brotherly role. Without the alpha undertone through body language, demeanor, or escalation, this can be a sure fire way into the friend's zone.

I kinda feel like socials should have another term... what does social really mean? Many of the social products I use would make me appear like a homosexual a few as 40 years ago to my peers. Now that being an individual is more accepted, the tide has changed. Men have been raised solely by women or by beta men. There's little in the way of father-son time due to the "machine". Single income households are near impossible in most cities. Men are treated as barbarians that rape, steal innocence, and are unfaithful creatures. Women aren't held to the same standards as men. Women are allowed to say what's on their mind, without fear of repercussions because they are the care givers in our society and are revered as the infallible. We live in a world of bitches on both sides and both sexes are continously allowed to bitch and complain instead of making a difference and taking a stand.

Socials for me, are the problem. I am attempting to change my role as a victim into an alpha male. Socials are only for me when I feel like my day is doing down the drain. They sorta even me out and allow people to shrug me off. They sort of make it so I can still say what I want diplomatically, and it won't be taken to heart. I may even muster up enough to smile, once I realize what I've said may be seen as hurtful or aggressive. Many of my socials will rarely see the light of day by myself. I'm attempting to take back my life and I won't allow any product the opportunity, even for a second, to allow me to appear like the bitches this world fosters.

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11-03-2016 3:17 PM

(11-03-2016 2:57 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Unless the disinhibitor is paired with inherently female molecules, then no connection exists. Disinhibitors bring out preexisting thoughts and behaviors, and may encourage others to act on them. Interest is not inherently, nor is a woman's expression of interest. What matter are the specific nature of that interest and how you choose to respond.

Theoretical example:

If I am a criminal and I have a hostage and a police officer says let him go or I'll shoot as he pulls out his gun, even if I am the biggest loudmouth there is the only time I would risk being shot by speaking back is if I thought he either wasn't serious, or looked like someone beta who I could beat up faster than he could kill me,

What I am saying is if the police officer was a 6'4" 260 lbs bodybuilder guy with a machine gun covered with tattoos my big mouth may not be so big.

Hence disinhibition occurred because the police officer was seen as beta or somehow not serious or dangerous enough to offset my response.

We all have free will.. Disinhibition will only go so far.

Now apply this to women exposed to disinhibition products and compare. Will they come on to MEN? Or only betas or guys they think are gay or pushovers who'll give them what they want? With real MEN won't they be scared to lead like the criminal in above example?

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11-03-2016 3:21 PM

(11-03-2016 2:34 PM)Snoopyace Wrote:  Do you have any specific products or putatives you'd be interesting in discussing?

There are so many.. Right now NA, M3X are two on my mind.. Esp today...Esp combining these two for an alpha female (albanian) I'm visiting tomorrow... Double whammy... Disinhibition, bonding, but are you being perceived as a MAN? Will you really get what you want (sex soon enough ) or used for something on ALpha woman's (HB10) checklist (money, friendship, a great personality to cheer her up etc and nothing more)? I know it depends how you steer it and you control how you act but if you're starting off with a weaker signal as opposed to a stronger one you are starting off at a disadvantage and will need to work much harder to offset it.

Garry says NA is beta and made for the beta male.

With m3x I am almost sure its not normal that 4 year olds should come play at my table while I am with my SO, while their parents scold them and apologize...

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11-03-2016 4:03 PM

Dont worry about what she thinks. Trying to get into the head of a female will drive you crazy.

Let the girls of the world discuss the feelings and what if's. There is a reason men talk about sports, women, cars, guns, instead of relationship worry.

Focus on what you think and leave it at that when meeting new women. What are YOU looking for? Because there are all shapes and sizes of female and each of them are going to come at you differently. Some shy, some bold, some overcompensating, some undercompensating.

Every person you come across in this world will affect your reality. The depth of this change is up to you and whether you deem this individual as having the similar enough interests to continue in conversation (or further).

Its like that game Memory we played as kids except tandem for 2 people. You flip a card of personality and she does too. If that matches you keep flipping and talking.

If a card doesnt match it is up to one of you to put forth effort to remember an earlier card match then steer the convo back to common ground. That way you are matching existing interests.

The more matches you make in time the more she feels that you are compatible. This is ultimately due to a bit of effort on both sides of playing match up. Make enough matches from there and she will let you play shoots and ladders all night long. Dont get discouraged if you make a few bad matches from time to time. EIf she does not make enough matches for your liking, just chalk it up to everyone is not compatible on a relationship level. Play the game with other hotties until you click with one then progress from there. Next thing you know you are hiding sausages in her trunk.

I'm sure you can see that men who get alot of action are good at this match game and absolutely NONE of it has to do with worrying about what a female thinks about or why she would do anything. Lol

Focus on you, not them.
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11-03-2016 5:30 PM

(11-03-2016 3:21 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Garry says NA is beta and made for the beta male.

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This is the first I've ever heard of this.
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11-03-2016 5:54 PM

(11-03-2016 5:30 PM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  This is the first I've ever heard of this.

I don't know if he changed his advertising but he used to always advertise NA as the mone for the older man, Asian man , beta man .

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