(05-12-2016 3:31 PM)NikkiReloaded Wrote:  Hmmm...I've had a lot of fun with Holy Grail and some strong attraction, but I've never sealed the deal, if I recollect, on anything from HAX. Perhaps this is the underlying reason why HAX isn't reported on more here.

I wonder if EST isn't giving flashy effects with little results for most users. With few exceptions (Wingman Black and Evolve being the main ones), I rarely hear of anyone closing using EST-containning mixes.

(04-10-2015 2:47 PM)Paradox Wrote:  Holy Grail By HAX
Lady Killer By HAX
Pherocide By HAX
Black Ops By HAX
Wingman Black By HAX
Element X By HAX
Pherofusion919 By HAX
Erox by Eros

Damn dude, I just tested Pherocide and I reported that it's a great ice-breaker but I noticed there wasn't a sexual kick to it. I liked the effects but EST does bother me since it mutes Androstenone.

(04-10-2015 10:11 PM)raikahoken Wrote:  Evolve has Est too

Unreal, I just check the ingredient list and sure enough ESTratetraenol. However I stand by my review, I found that Evolve does work well on me. Is it possible that the Est content is so low therefore not totally killing the mix?

I remember a while back on this forum a vet had issues with True Love because it contained A1, Est and Meo which he said fucked him up. I remember I tossed the remaining bottle because I didn't want to run the risk.

The EST in Evolve may be enough to drastically change the character of the mix. That much androstenone would normally result in some extremely polarizing responses. I'd like to try using EST in amounts 1/1000th or less than what's contained in Evolve to find out if extremely low doses will result in any desirable effects, minus the downsides Paradox and other EST-sensitive individuals have noted.

Had strange reaction with SO using Evolve, started ok with kissing and caressing and suddenly
stops cold turkey and says I am really wet but did not want to continue.

Reminded me of the big red stop signs at school crossings !

Just want to add that I used 2 drops Evolve Oil,
1 on each side of neck.

Wonder if reactions would differ between spray
and oil

(05-19-2016 10:43 PM)lullijomazaa Wrote:  Just want to add that I used 2 drops Evolve Oil,
1 on each side of neck.

Wonder if reactions would differ between spray
and oil

i so much want to try Evolve oil and Steve has big discounts this weekend with some beta test blends released, but got stunned about this EST thing.

lullijomazaa, how much time did last from application? in theory Evolve transits from sexy social to pure sexual over time, interesting, if you was in the social spectrum or more in the sexual.

Every time I see this thread I'm reminded of this:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/l-CtKIo7olM&amp;rel=0&amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/l-CtKIo7olM&amp;rel=0&amp;fs=1</a>

I don't think Pherocide was ever meant to be att sexual mix. Black Ops is and I've closed with it. Black Ops makes the women really remember you after too.

Hi lost_summertime, I put on evolve oil about 6 in the evening to give it time to "evolve" from social to sexual but unfortunately for me it backfired.

My SO is 46 so maybe my theory is works better on younger women ?

Can others input the ages of the ladies for whom Evolve got a positive response ?

(05-19-2016 10:43 PM)lullijomazaa Wrote:  Just want to add that I used 2 drops Evolve Oil,
1 on each side of neck.

Wonder if reactions would differ between spray
and oil

Have you tried 1 drop? Space it out between the wrists and neck.