(05-01-2015 8:30 PM)Cornfed Wrote:  Are you saying that Evolve makes you feel beta? I know it has est, but also a fair amount of none. I have a bottle of the spray coming right now, but there seem to be a lot of people here who love it. Still, I know first hand how body chemistry effects results. A lot of people seem to love Captain, but I got a sample of it which I wore to work today, and don't think I ought to wear again. My mouth just won't stop running, talking smack on everyone, which is not typical of me.

Just saying the est in evolve gets to me. My voice even going up a pitch with it. With l2k this never happens.

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Interesting thread any other mainstream products contains est ?

(04-10-2015 2:47 PM)Paradox Wrote:  Holy Grail By HAX
Lady Killer By HAX
Pherocide By HAX
Black Ops By HAX
Wingman Black By HAX
Element X By HAX
Pherofusion919 By HAX
Erox by Eros

Highly suspected (ingredients not listed)

MX297 By Androtics
Instant Gentleman By Androtics
P74 By Androtics

Out of fear that someone will steal their formula many pheromone companies do not list their ingredients or if they do they do not list all of them. So, many products may contain Est but you won't find out until you try it and it doesn't work.

There are others that I suspect have a bit of EST to soften the Androstenone.

I have heard the argument on this forum that a bit of Est nsoftens but in my personal tests I have found that Est puts you in the friendzone, specifically the "Girlfriend" zone.

Hi everyone, 1st post.

What about X22 by Hax? Any Est in it?

(05-10-2016 2:46 AM)ps775 Wrote:  Hi everyone, 1st post.

What about X22 by Hax? Any Est in it?

Hax does not list the ingredients of X22.

(05-10-2016 8:06 AM)Paradox Wrote:  Hax does not list the ingredients of X22.

My vote is it does have EST. Anyone want some I won't use it anymore?

(05-10-2016 8:06 AM)Paradox Wrote:  Hax does not list the ingredients of X22.

Hence my question - was wondering if maybe they used to, or if it was known amongst the members here.

What about voodoo?With it's horrible self effects

(05-10-2016 10:20 AM)kerno Wrote:  What about voodoo?With it's horrible self effects

No one knows what is in Voodoo. Only Garry from LAL knows the ingredients.

I saw an episode of "The Big Bang Theory" where Howard had been rubbing his mother's with an Estrogen cream (Season 7 Episode 02 – The Deception Verification).

Some of the EST was absorbed through his skin. Here is the scene:

Bernadette: Fine, forget I asked. How was dinner at your mom’s?

Howard: Awful. I had to rub her ointment all over her again.

Bernadette: Why can’t she do it?

Howard: ‘Cause we've got a deeply unhealthy relationship. Which reminds me, do you think you can get any samples of this from work? This was supposed to last her a month, but they didn't take into account the square footage of her back.

Bernadette: Let me see. How long have you been putting this on her?

Howard: I don’t know. Few weeks. Why?

Bernadette: This is really strong estrogen cream. Please tell me you've been wearing gloves.

Howard: Like these swollen sausages could fit in gloves.

Bernadette: Howie, the estrogen’s getting absorbed by your skin. That’s why you've been all bloated and moody and a giant pain in the ass.

Howard: You’re full of estrogen and you don’t act like that.

Bernadette: That’s ’cause I’m a woman. I've had years of practice riding the dragon.

Howard: Fine. I’ll wear gloves next time.

Bernadette: It’s still gonna take a few weeks for the hormones to leave your system.

Howard: I feel so stupid. And fat.

Bernadette: It’s okay. You still look great to me. In fact, why don’t we go in the bedroom and I’ll prove it to you?

Howard: Sex? Really? I mean, that’s just your solution to everything.

Thanks, I also saw the word pheromones in the big bang in another episode and in grimm and breaking bad

(04-10-2015 2:47 PM)Paradox Wrote:  Holy Grail By HAX
Lady Killer By HAX
Pherocide By HAX
Black Ops By HAX
Wingman Black By HAX
Element X By HAX
Pherofusion919 By HAX
Erox by Eros

Highly suspected (ingredients not listed)

MX297 By Androtics
Instant Gentleman By Androtics
P74 By Androtics

Out of fear that someone will steal their formula many pheromone companies do not list their ingredients or if they do they do not list all of them. So, many products may contain Est but you won't find out until you try it and it doesn't work.

There are others that I suspect have a bit of EST to soften the Androstenone.

I have heard the argument on this forum that a bit of Est nsoftens but in my personal tests I have found that Est puts you in the friendzone, specifically the "Girlfriend" zone.

Hmmm...I've had a lot of fun with Holy Grail and some strong attraction, but I've never sealed the deal, if I recollect, on anything from HAX. Perhaps this is the underlying reason why HAX isn't reported on more here.