Hey guys. Fair question Indi-Player. In general I’m an extrovert but around her I’m quite a mix. She says I’m an alpha male and quite aggressive in nature which I personally don’t think I am in life but around her that’s what she perceives. She sees me as quite a dominating and my way or the highway kind of husband. Again that is her perception and not necessarily who I think I am. I see myself as a short guy with low confidence and self worth who’s about to lose his wife for all the wrong reasons. We used to have a very loving and warm relationship. I need to get some of that love back as well as attraction, much deeper attraction than just physical. I need her to want to talk to me again and honestly I need me to want to talk to her too. I’m not good at holding conversations or finding cool things to talk about. Our age gap has an impact too. She is quite intellectual and smart for her age. Very pretty too.

If anyone has any of the Pheromones mentioned in this thread for sale second hand that they don’t need please let me know. I’m having trouble sourcing them on a fast delivery service to the UK.

Thanks

(09-12-2021 7:26 AM)zuluecho Wrote:  Hey guys. Fair question Indi-Player. In general I’m an extrovert but around her I’m quite a mix. She says I’m an alpha male and quite aggressive in nature which I personally don’t think I am in life but around her that’s what she perceives. She sees me as quite a dominating and my way or the highway kind of husband. Again that is her perception and not necessarily who I think I am. I see myself as a short guy with low confidence and self worth who’s about to lose his wife for all the wrong reasons. We used to have a very loving and warm relationship. I need to get some of that love back as well as attraction, much deeper attraction than just physical. I need her to want to talk to me again and honestly I need me to want to talk to her too. I’m not good at holding conversations or finding cool things to talk about. Our age gap has an impact too. She is quite intellectual and smart for her age. Very pretty too.

If anyone has any of the Pheromones mentioned in this thread for sale second hand that they don’t need please let me know. I’m having trouble sourcing them on a fast delivery service to the UK.

Thanks

Thank you

I second Russian wolf's suggestions.

How you perceive yourself doesn't always hold true on how other perceive you.

I used to be like you when I was young (16) when I felt like I didn't fit it because I wasn't cool and didn't have much to talk about with the cool kids. I came to understand that it's just my low self esteem attitude at the time. It doesn't matter what you say but how you say it.

Honestly I can talk about the stupidest things and it seems interesting to people lol

Also you need to improve a few things. Other can feel free to pitch in.

You need a idgaf attitude: some pheromones can help with that. Less in your head and more coming out of your mouth

You need a comforting pheromone which again, cohesion will do the job really well.

And lastly, it's not wrong to go to Google and search "interesting topics to talk about".

You've been with your wife for a while, you must know what she's into. For example, my girlfriend is into reality shows. I can talk to her for years about it, just making shit up. Like why do you think they participate in this kind of shows, or, how real are they, why they do what they do. Shit like that.

My suggestion for you if you are willing to spend some money

Wolf from liquid alchemy labs , buy the 10ml Euro droppers bottle for 30 bucks

Cohesion buy the spray for 37 bucks

And spend 5 minutes searching for Topics to talk about. News, fun facts about animals, tik tok trends, an event that happened to her favorite singer.


Wolf applied on your upper lips for the self effects to help with the feel good and idgaf. If you want to push it even more, get your heart rate moving then apply Wolf 5 drops. She would also admire you.

Cohesion on your wrists and inner elbows.

Those are nudges. Wolf will nudge you to feel good and act, Cohesion will give her a nudge of you being understanding and gives her inner comfort and relaxation around you.

Nothing is guaranteed. There are always 3 sides to the story

Good luck

I can post you a small dropper of True Love by S1CK if you want, just cover my postage. It worked wonders for the relationship with my wifey. My situation was the other way around, I was fed up of her.
I feel your pain brother, hang in there, relationships are hard enough and then when kids get thrown into the mix , things get even harder these days. We're not really well trained by society on how to be partners and good parents.

Don't be hard on yourself, becoming parents strains the hell out of many relationships and intimacy gets disrupted too. I can see your intention is clear ie to rekindle things, and intention is key. You're taking action too. Have iron clad faith that things will work out and you'll figure out what needs to be done.

@indi-player that is an amazing post, full of real life practical advice. Thanks so much!
I will follow it to the fullest. @right_mr you’re too kind sir. Please let me know how much you want by pm for the product. I’ll pay for it including the postage to London.

It is possible that your wife is suffering from some degree of PND. I don't have experience of wearing mones around a woman who has PND, but I do have experience of wearing mones around women with severe pre-menstrual hormonal imbalances. The best products to use under these conditions are those which contain EST.

EST has a strong calming + feelgood effect upon women with out of balance hormones, and after several exposures, the target almost gets addicted to your presence. You become their "fix". But keep it away from your face or your balls will end up the size of peas.

Aroma Fero ship to the UK from the EU, and Paulius is a top guy and will do his best to send you an urgent order.

(09-11-2021 12:44 PM)WiggleWasser Wrote:  I recommend a lawyer. You are about to be divorce-raped.

You nailed it. Here is the plan for many women

1) Realize in mid-late 20's all their friends are married and having kids - their clock is ticking
2) Find a successful male, be the perfect women he wants no matter what that is - ie chameleon
3) Have a good relationship giving him everything he wants for a year or so(lowers his defenses)
4) have a kid - be out of the job market for at least year
5) Kill bedroom, start gaslighting the man. Start telling your girlfriends exagerated stories about your anger and aggression and how they are starting to get scared
6) Contact a lawyer
7) when you are at work, have you served and change the locks on the house

You are now left without your kids and needing to find a place to live - this makes your emotional state a wreck and you wont think clearly. She will then(through the lawyer) request half of everything, the house, child support and alimony.

Your only chance is to go on the offence, and be ready to pull the trigger so you stay in the house (Hopefully with the child) while she is realing.

100% this is what happened and what is happening. 100% nailed it.

(09-15-2021 1:54 PM)falco Wrote:  You nailed it. Here is the plan for many women

1) Realize in mid-late 20's all their friends are married and having kids - their clock is ticking
2) Find a successful male, be the perfect women he wants no matter what that is - ie chameleon
3) Have a good relationship giving him everything he wants for a year or so(lowers his defenses)
4) have a kid - be out of the job market for at least year
5) Kill bedroom, start gaslighting the man. Start telling your girlfriends exagerated stories about your anger and aggression and how they are starting to get scared
6) Contact a lawyer
7) when you are at work, have you served and change the locks on the house

You are now left without your kids and needing to find a place to live - this makes your emotional state a wreck and you wont think clearly. She will then(through the lawyer) request half of everything, the house, child support and alimony.

Your only chance is to go on the offence, and be ready to pull the trigger so you stay in the house (Hopefully with the child) while she is realing.

Seriously this happens more than you think! Please Please go on the offensive and contact a lawyer today and serve her before you are served. Also be sure to start yesterday telling your true friends what she is really like(abusive, rejects sex, starts fights, throws items etc). Fight fire with fire and strike first.

(09-15-2021 3:30 PM)zuluecho Wrote:  100% this is what happened and what is happening. 100% nailed it.
So if 1-5 are complete, you can almost guarantee 6 is in place and she is just waiting for enough of her freinds and family to fully believe her and regularly ask her "how are you doing, are you ok, has he hurt you?". Once she has a few asking that she will execute step 7.

(09-15-2021 8:15 PM)falco Wrote:  Seriously this happens more than you think! Please Please go on the offensive and contact a lawyer today and serve her before you are served. Also be sure to start yesterday telling your true friends what she is really like(abusive, rejects sex, starts fights, throws items etc). Fight fire with fire and strike first.

The OP is in the UK, so USA divorce laws and procedures are very different.

Also, would such action be counterproductive? Was the woman always like this, or is her behaviour due to lockdown or PND?

If the OP's aim is to save his marriage and live with his child, he needs to try to save the relationship, not nuke it.

(09-15-2021 3:30 PM)zuluecho Wrote:  100% this is what happened and what is happening. 100% nailed it.

Option 1: Get a lawyer before she gets it. Destroy whatever is left and stay bitter for the rest of your life. Let the lawyers make money off of you. Next, get back in the game to find another woman and just hope the new one doesn't have such a past to her, or just get nonchalant about it eventually. Because how long can you care.

That's what a certain type of alpha would do.

Option 2: Use the tools in your arsenal. Give her a chance to feel differently about you. Let her go through her confusion, not your problem. Keep the relationship under control and the lawyer money in your pocket. Become the leader and the one in control.

That's also what a certain other type of alpha would do.

Sometimes it just comes down to managing things around you with the help of the tools and techniques you have. No one has a perfect life.