(10-29-2016 7:36 PM)RoverRobb Wrote:  Now if a woman sees me as a MVP then they would come and approach me. I rather get pass up by 99 women and have 1 woman approach me. When she does approach me, I maintain my dignity and know that I'm a high value male. Not the other way around.

Approaching first doesn't necessarily lower a man's value... Weak appearance, status, and weak game would.
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(10-29-2016 7:36 PM)RoverRobb Wrote:  Great comment! This gives me an opportunity to elaborate on my perspective.

Indeed, I'm a man. However, I'm a man with self-worth and hold certain set of fundamental values when it comes to maintaining my status. I will not be giving myself any potential chance of being rejected by any woman. Period.

I understand some guys like to "play the field" by repeatedly getting rejected by women. They don't stop there. These guys would proceed to lower their status and act moronically. I've seen life long losing Horse gamblers winning a lot more than these "player" guys actually scoring. But hey... That's what they like to do.

Other guys like to get married and get their orders from their wife. Again... That's what they like to do.

The only women I would approach and open are store clerks or customer service women. This is to see their reaction to Pheromones. Besides, they can never say No about doing their job by answering my random questions.

Now if a woman sees me as a MVP then they would come and approach me. I rather get pass up by 99 women and have 1 woman approach me. When she does approach me, I maintain my dignity and know that I'm a high value male. Not the other way around.

With that being said, I will be testing out this combo again later this evening at a party. I HOPE I get same or similar results as you did in REAL LIFE.

It'll be a long time and slim chance before a woman cold opens you. Women are nervous AF too - more than men because us with the penis are trained to open from teen years. A woman who is cold, calm, and collected as a man who's approached 100s of women, 1 in a decade. I'm in Vegas alone, I sent you my number in PM. Text me tomorrow night, let's have some drinks, and make love to a broad for practice.

(10-29-2016 3:58 PM)theLaw Wrote:  ........So Evolve/LIIK doesn't work well with hope............got it.

Wait wait wait, are you saying that inactive hoping is insufficient to have women open me? I've been doing it wrong!

(10-29-2016 7:36 PM)RoverRobb Wrote:  Great comment! This gives me an opportunity to elaborate on my perspective.

Indeed, I'm a man. However, I'm a man with self-worth and hold certain set of fundamental values when it comes to maintaining my status. I will not be giving myself any potential chance of being rejected by any woman. Period.

I understand some guys like to "play the field" by repeatedly getting rejected by women. They don't stop there. These guys would proceed to lower their status and act moronically. I've seen life long losing Horse gamblers winning a lot more than these "player" guys actually scoring. But hey... That's what they like to do.

Other guys like to get married and get their orders from their wife. Again... That's what they like to do.

The only women I would approach and open are store clerks or customer service women. This is to see their reaction to Pheromones. Besides, they can never say No about doing their job by answering my random questions.

Now if a woman sees me as a MVP then they would come and approach me. I rather get pass up by 99 women and have 1 woman approach me. When she does approach me, I maintain my dignity and know that I'm a high value male. Not the other way around.

With that being said, I will be testing out this combo again later this evening at a party. I HOPE I get same or similar results as you did in REAL LIFE.

this might be the dumbest thing I've read on here. a real man takes charge. a real man leads. the guy sitting in the corner wearing pheromones waiting for women to approach him ... is not a man ... in my opinion anyway.

u don't approach women because like u said ... ur afraid of rejection. .... a high value male is not afraid of rejection .... because he doesn't care if he gets rejected because it's her loss.... not his. if you're afraid of HER rejection then you're just admitting that her value is higher. a lion doesn't care about the opinion of a sheep. are you the lion or the sheep ?

and you're allowed to simply talk to women without being worried about the outcome. by telling this girl she needs a bib. ... you're not opening yourself to rejection because you're simply making a comment. you're not asking her to marry you.

anyways.... good luck with your strategy

(10-29-2016 6:11 PM)theLaw Wrote:  I was referring to the reviews on this forum about the new LIIK:

https://pherotruth.com/Thread-New-L2k-v2-2016

Looks like it's back to normal, but I'll need to try it to be sure.

Did you test it yet?

(11-08-2016 6:18 AM)jb20 Wrote:  Did you test it yet?

Currently testing it and looks legit so far, but I'll won't post full review with all details after testing is completed.

Bottle design is new(ish), and early fragrance tests show Leather and Steel lasting 8+hrs on skin and nearly 24hrs on clothing.

Cheers!

(11-08-2016 9:02 AM)theLaw Wrote:  Currently testing it and looks legit so far, but I'll won't post full review with all details after testing is completed.

Bottle design is new(ish), and early fragrance tests show Leather and Steel lasting 8+hrs on skin and nearly 24hrs on clothing.

Cheers!

Looking forward to your review.

I'm abandoning this ship, guys! There are 2 reasons for this...

1) This combo (LIIK V1 and Evolve) at 1:1 ratio did not get women to approach me. These products are loaded with 'Socials', yet no one responded to me in a overtly socializing way. I've tested this combo out in many places: Casinos, Sportsbooks, stores, parties and clubs (mind you I'm not much of a party or a club guy). Supposively, parties and clubs are where these products shine the most.

2) I don't like the crash and the day after effects. It's very difficult for me to fall asleep even after I wash the application off. The application also sticks to the skin for a very long time even after throughly washing off with many different products. I value my sleep and I have a set sleep schedule to feel productive the next day. Also, I get a hangover feel when I wake up. Even on the days when I didn't drink. I usually don't drink and when I do it's to sip on it; maybe half a drink at the most.

Notes: When I'm in certain vicinity, I did see unusual pattern of women of all ages and ethnicities bending over and rubbing chest one time. If that's what some would call a clear IOI, I'm certainly not going to go open these women up by standing directly behind them with my torso sticking out forward nor will I extend my hand forward and place them on their chest. Unlike quite a few guys, I'm not at that advanced stage of being an Ultimate Alpha God. There are serious laws that would prevent me from doing this as well.

I have a set routine to be productive person day in and day out. This combo was interfering with my daily routine the day after useage. I didn't mess around with different ratios due to this.

Overall, this was a combo fusion that did not work out well. I understand some guys can make these products with magical results and even get women to approach them or randomly do certain things with them even on a first meeting/date. However, I'm still in search of such product. I wanted to write this long, through and analytical review of why I refuse to use these 2 products again, combo or separately so you guys can understand my reason.

Thanks.

(11-09-2016 1:32 PM)RoverRobb Wrote:  I'm abandoning this ship, guys! There are 2 reasons for this...

1) This combo (LIIK V1 and Evolve) at 1:1 ratio did not get women to approach me.

You heard it here first guys............LIIK + Evolve..........is not actually magic.

Can't wait to see how many other products "fail" using this method of testing.

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(11-09-2016 1:32 PM)RoverRobb Wrote:  Notes: When I'm in certain vicinity, I did see unusual pattern of women of all ages and ethnicities bending over and rubbing chest one time. If that's what some would call a clear IOI, I'm certainly not going to go open these women up by standing directly behind them with my torso sticking out forward nor will I extend my hand forward and place them on their chest. Unlike quite a few guys, I'm not at that advanced stage of being an Ultimate Alpha God. There are serious laws that would prevent me from doing this as well.

It sounds like this combo doesn't work for you for several reasons, which you listed, and that's good. Discovering what works with your mojo is part of the process, since these compounds are to enhance your game, not change your game.

I'm not quite sure who you're talking about in the quote above, though. I don't think anyone here on PheroTruth has advocated what you illustrated, and I sure haven't seen anyone attempt that kind of thing. What inspired this for you?