(08-24-2023 3:45 PM)TracerX Wrote:  what proportions did you use? what's the alcohol to pheromone to oil ratios?

1d Alpha Male
5d Male
1d A1
2d unisex
1d truffles
2d female
3d Iso e super
9ml alcohol
20ml MCT oil
2d lemongrass essential oil
10 sprays belcam cologne

I macerated it for 10 days.

(08-24-2023 5:33 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  1d Alpha Male
5d Male
1d A1
2d unisex
1d truffles
2d female
3d Iso e super
9ml alcohol
20ml MCT oil
2d lemongrass essential oil
10 sprays belcam cologne

I macerated it for 10 days.

And you're using the Factors from perfumers world or concentrates?

Now I get the feeling I really overdosed in my mixes

(08-24-2023 5:56 PM)TracerX Wrote:  And you're using the Factors from perfumers world or concentrates?

Now I get the feeling I really overdosed in my mixes

I'm using factors.

What was your dose and how were reactions?

I made two versions of this mix same as IP have said,
One with 5 drops alpha Androsterone mix and the other with 5 drops Androstenone mix.
Each one is 10 ml sprayer bottle,
I finished testing them yesterday.
I used from one spray to 6 sprays.
I haven’t got anything from them .
I used factors by the way as IP said.

I got my perfumerworlds singles already.
And my dropper bottles are arriving tomorrow.
I will be using Renny's original formula, 5 parts None and 1 part aRone.
Reason is because I tried the reverse using LoveScents singles and something about the mix felt off.

According to renny, in a one of his posts, he claims the ratio was presented backwards by androtics. Meaning it was depicted as having more Androsterone than none, but really had more none than Androsterone.
It wasn't until it was changed for the worse that it had more Androsterone, according to Renny.

But we'll see.

From Renny:
"No. mix 5 parts androstenone, one part androsterone, one part androstadienone, 2 parts a-androstenol, one part b-androstenol, a few drops of copulins and a bit of whatever the hell taf was. you can leave the taf out as it was just for the wearers focus. Been workin' on this awhile in my lab up here at the north pole. merry Christmas. Use sparingly. Have fun. YES THE OLD 80-20 RATIO WAS ALWAYS PRESENTED BACKWARDS. nuff said."

https://pherotruth.com/Thread-Should-I-buy-A314

(08-24-2023 8:04 PM)Artist sam Wrote:  I made two versions of this mix same as IP have said,
One with 5 drops alpha Androsterone mix and the other with 5 drops Androstenone mix.
Each one is 10 ml sprayer bottle,
I finished testing them yesterday.
I used from one spray to 6 sprays.
I haven’t got anything from them .
I used factors by the way as IP said.

Was the second bottle 5 drops none and 1 drop Androsterone?

(08-24-2023 8:04 PM)Artist sam Wrote:  I made two versions of this mix same as IP have said,
One with 5 drops alpha Androsterone mix and the other with 5 drops Androstenone mix.
Each one is 10 ml sprayer bottle,
I finished testing them yesterday.
I used from one spray to 6 sprays.
I haven’t got anything from them .
I used factors by the way as IP said.

Why did you make it triple strength?
I-P posted that he made it in a 30ml sprayer.
You should try 2-4 drops and see if hits improve. I think you ODed.

(08-24-2023 8:46 PM)MakeShift37 Wrote:  Was the second bottle 5 drops none and 1 drop Androsterone?

Yes bro ,
First one is 5 Androstenone and 1 Androsterone,
Second mix is 5 Androsterone and 1 Androstenone

(08-24-2023 9:08 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  Why did you make it triple strength?
I-P posted that he made it in a 30ml sprayer.
You should try 2-4 drops and see if hits improve. I think you ODed.

I’m thinking of this bro,
But the concentration around 3 mcg/ drop as my calculations and the company reply.
So first I tried 10 ml sprayer bottle, then will start second test with 30 ml sprayer bottle.

I really wish my calculations are wrong and the factors more concentration so it will last longer and will be helpful more.
And for sure thanks to IP for sharing useful informations and details about mixes and ingredients.

(08-25-2023 11:46 AM)Artist sam Wrote:  Yes bro ,
First one is 5 Androstenone and 1 Androsterone,
Second mix is 5 Androsterone and 1 Androstenone

Dang so you didn't see much out of either?

Makes me rethink my approach when I get to mixing.

Maybe a 4:1 ratio might be better. Idk.