(07-21-2022 2:16 PM)justintime469 Wrote:  I was the only one that voted yes. I do want it to expand, but not in a way that will attract negative attention.

I do like the lucrative side to things. I would like to see some new molecules discovered.

It doesn't have to expand to see new discoveries.

99% of the pheromones being sold out there in the world are crap products with very little pheromones dosages. Most of these you can find on google or amazon or really anywhere by doing searches on the internet.

The best pheromone manufacturers are right here on PT.. They are established and most companies have produced 15+ products so they are all experienced vendors. Some have produced 30+ products in their line that have all been battle tested by our community.

I hesitate to recommend any manufacturer that is not willing to risk their reputation by letting their products be judged by the PT community which is a no holds barred uncensored forum.

So you see, we don't need to expand the community. We need to offered continued support to the vendors right here on PT that have made the industry their professional source of income and have had all their products battle tested by the tough crowds here on PT.

In the end if a product is GOLD it will get GOLD recognition. Sooner or later it will become known here on PT.

I vote to keep our community small, and to offer continued support to established vendors here on PT with lots of experience in the field.

We have some smart brains here. The collective good of the forum is in the hands of the PT vendors and the PT community.

I just wish many of the PT forum vets would come back. We lost most of them during covid-19.

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Agree so much with what dsouza says in both of his posts.

Short answer: No. Long Answer: “When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.” And definitely in this case, “Quality over Quantity.”

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My only fear is that if it's not expanding vendors will eventually stop selling it or producing it. On the other hand you could argue why not make it into a secret community or movement if we don't plan to expand it.

(07-18-2022 6:32 AM)TracerX Wrote:  Would you rather have the pheromone community bigger and more well-known, or more under the radar (as it is currently), or even small ( like hidden cult).

I'd rather be able to buy the old A314 lol I heard that was peak mone.

This circle we are in is most likely seen like "flat earthers" by the general population if they even realize that it exists. I hope I don't alienate any flat earther in here - but anyhow you know what I mean. Nobody believes in it. And it is so against the common narratives about sex and gender and how m-f interactions should be.
It helps that there are a large number of scam products sold in the huge A... platform. That promotes the idea that mones don't work in humans.
That's imho good.

Quote:In the end if a product is GOLD it will get GOLD recognition. Sooner or later it will become known here on PT.

No. The number of testers is small, good testers even smaller. The way they test is idiosyncratic, and all they can really say is if they noticed a difference adding the product to their own lives. You won't have the same personality, body, and environment as the testers.

Some good products will be discovered, others missed.

Quote:I hope I don't alienate any flat earther in here

So conscientious.

I tell some of my close coworkers about my pheromone use. I've even had some of them test out some at work.
Usually they respond with indifference and believe any luck I've had with mones, personally, is credited to myself, not the mones.
The ones that are interested see mones solely as "get laid" products. I try to explain to them that mones can have multifaceted purposes beyond/outside of sexual intents/interactions

A close friend of mine is totally opposed to wearing mones because, in his words, "it wouldn't be real attraction" for a women to like him because of the mones. He worries that he'd be uncertain if a woman is truly into him or not with mones.

With that said, I voted yes.

(12-12-2022 4:00 PM)acro Wrote:  No. The number of testers is small, good testers even smaller. The way they test is idiosyncratic, and all they can really say is if they noticed a difference adding the product to their own lives. You won't have the same personality, body, and environment as the testers.

Some good products will be discovered, others missed.

I see you just joined, but honestly you sound really knowledgeable already! Were you around in the old androtics days or something?

(12-12-2022 5:14 PM)MakeShift37 Wrote:  I tell some of my close coworkers about my pheromone use. I've even had some of them test out some at work.
Usually they respond with indifference and believe any luck I've had with mones, personally, is credited to myself, not the mones.
The ones that are interested see mones solely as "get laid" products. I try to explain to them that mones can have multifaceted purposes beyond/outside of sexual intents/interactions

A close friend of mine is totally opposed to wearing mones because, in his words, "it wouldn't be real attraction" for a women to like him because of the mones. He worries that he'd be uncertain if a woman is truly into him or not with mones.

With that said, I voted yes.

I feel the same way as your friend actually. What are your thoughts on that? I worry that I’m going to meet someone awesome and have a smashing good time in the beginning and then be dependent on mones to keep up the spark or whatever.

Also I voted yes

(12-12-2022 9:02 PM)bootysage Wrote:  

(12-12-2022 5:14 PM)MakeShift37 Wrote:  A close friend of mine is totally opposed to wearing mones because, in his words, "it wouldn't be real attraction" for a women to like him because of the mones. He worries that he'd be uncertain if a woman is truly into him or not with mones.

I feel the same way as your friend actually. What are your thoughts on that? I worry that I’m going to meet someone awesome and have a smashing good time in the beginning and then be dependent on mones to keep up the spark or whatever.

Also I voted yes

I don't think you have anything to worry about.

I'm not SUPER experienced with mones yet, but I've thought about their effects and their impact a lot. Human social dynamics and communication (in all its forms) fascinate the fuck out of me, lol.

So... Everything is about stimulus and response.

The way you look, the way you move, the way you sound, the words you use, the way other people react to you, the way you smell etc.

Yes, pheromones are affecting other people.
But pheromones are never the ONLY variable at play.

This is a huge mistake many pheromone users (and people on this forum) have been making for decades.
They incorrectly attribute cause & effect (stimulus and response) to the pheromones and only the pheromones.

In other words...

If the way you LOOK is also a variable, do you feel like it's cheating if you're wearing an awesome outfit?
What if the girl you're with sees you naked?
Or in normal clothes?
Would you be worried about losing her attraction?

...Would you have to ONLY be seen in a thousand dollar suit from now on?

If you had an awesome haircut, what happens when you let it grow out, or change your style?

And what happens if you drink coffee or alcohol (or take any other kind of drug) and your behaviour changes...
And she's attracted to you because of that?

The reality is, humans are attracted to an IDEA of another person based on the signals they convey.

We're getting philosophical here, but it may be impossible to ever truly "know" another person perfectly.

Every person you know has a "brand" to you - they represent something.
You associate certain thoughts, feelings and experiences with them.
Just the thought of that person brings up those associations.
And it's your interpretation of what they represent, TO YOU.

Worrying that someone is only attracted to you because of pheromones is, imo, misunderstanding the BIG PICTURE.
There is so much more to peoples interpretation of who you are.

The impression you make is the totality of the energy you express, AND the other persons interpretation of it.

Pheromones are just one part of that.

The excitement around pheromones, imo, comes from the fact that most humans don't even realize that pheromones are a part of the big picture.
We have a secret advantage by understanding this.
...And I LOVE having a secret advantage

The mistake that many make is thinking pheromones are the ONLY part of the picture.
Or even the MAIN part of the picture.

(And I apologize that I'm so new to pheromones and to the forum, yet I'm making this claim.)

Anyway...

Dsouza nailed it earlier when he said:

dsouza Wrote:While women have for decades been using high heels, push up bras, breast implants, fake eyelashes, collagen injected lips etc to manipulate men into choosing them.

Truth. Clothes, makeup etc. are included here too.

It's all about creating a stimulus and causing a response.

So to answer the question brought up in the OP:

I actually wish the community was as big and active as it was 10 years ago.
Those seem to have been the golden days for mones.

But everyone else is also correct that you don't want this to get TOO big, or people will start getting freaked out.

This is some powerful stuff!