#1 Pheromones do work

#2 Pheromones will not make a drop dead hottie WANT you. It will make them notice you

#3 If you are not acting the part with your phero signature. You will be ghosted

#4 Stop buying ready made products, the component molecules are SOO much cheaper

#5 The marketing is a lie. Yup I said it. No woman is going to be all up on your shit just because you smell good, (and you do nothing else)

#6 NLP (Neuro linguistic programming) will not save the world. Stop with the game crap. Kino and the likes. It is a model not the bible.

#7 stop peacocking. Just kidding, be original and comfortable in your skin.

#8 No matter how hot they are, someone somewhere is tired of their shit

#9 You be you. In the age of hipsters, and geeks being cool. Be genuinely yourself. This goes a long way.

#10 Keep your pad clean, I mean no one cares about a little clutter, I have banged many college girls in a cluttered room. But if you want to keep someone coming around, clean your shit.

#11 There is no end all be all mix. Catlords Panty scorcher was close. But good luck trying to get any.

#12 There have been little to no advances in pheromone understanding in the last 4 years 2014-2018.

#13 Less is at times more, unless more is better. In which case toss on a little -none and about 400mcg Alpha Androstenol and 400mcg Beta Androstenol. And say "Hi there" to every person you meet... Fucking hilariously funny.

#14 There is no phero guru. Only a collection of stories we take at face value.

#15 I may not always be right, but I am usually sometimes wrong.

#16 People have stds. Wrap your shit up.

#17 Ever wonder why a site that does not offer a specific molecule for sale that others list as possible or known.... But lists multiple unknown putative products? Money and marketing

To be continued

#11 Why search for Panty Scorcher when you can #4 make your own?

(06-01-2018 4:10 PM)stefdude Wrote:  #11 Why search for Panty Scorcher when you can #4 make your own?

If only I knew how. Hell I cant even add sugar to kool aid and make it taste consistent.

#4 isnt a reality for most people.

(06-01-2018 5:20 PM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  #4 isnt a reality for most people.

Panty scorcher was made by catlord17 deemed too expensive by AD for production.

I just mixed up some neno froma supplements.


Going out with my lady

(06-01-2018 7:46 PM)djAndarial Wrote:  Panty scorcher was made by catlord17 deemed too expensive by AD for production.

I just mixed up some neno froma supplements.


Going out with my lady

AD also claimed that the response from the testers was not significant, so it wouldn't be worth producing.

If it were cost prohibitive, I assume they would have never produced the test-mixes. Perhaps they thought that Catlord had a secret recipe, but when it didn't set the world on fire, they just said it was too expensive.

(06-01-2018 7:46 PM)djAndarial Wrote:  Panty scorcher was made by catlord17 deemed too expensive by AD for production.

I just mixed up some neno froma supplements.


Going out with my lady

Catlord was one out of how many members? How come it never made it back to market. It takers years to understand pheromones and how they work together. Even experienced user have an "Aha moment" after years of testing.

(06-01-2018 7:57 PM)theLaw Wrote:  AD also claimed that the response from the testers was not significant, so it wouldn't be worth producing.

If it were cost prohibitive, I assume they would have never produced the test-mixes. Perhaps they thought that Catlord had a secret recipe, but when it didn't set the world on fire, they just said it was too expensive.

I trust a rattlesnake with a "pet me" sign more than anything AD says. The bastard took my reward points

(06-01-2018 8:16 PM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  Catlord was one out of how many members? How come it never made it back to market. It takers years to understand pheromones and how they work together. Even experienced user have an "Aha moment" after years of testing.

Exactly.It's a very complex matter, an art along with science.When you have so many molecules and variables that interfere with eachother the issue becomes extremely complex.It may take months, assuming proper testing from proper people, to make a solid product of 1 type, say social-sexual.

I have my job, my expertise and my time equals money, as is anyone's.I'd rather pay those who have devoted years in testing, with more knowledge and experience than I will ever have than chose a totally cost-ineffective way of spending my time.

(06-01-2018 7:57 PM)theLaw Wrote:  AD also claimed that the response from the testers was not significant, so it wouldn't be worth producing.

If it were cost prohibitive, I assume they would have never produced the test-mixes. Perhaps they thought that Catlord had a secret recipe, but when it didn't set the world on fire, they just said it was too expensive.

Right on. We can take a quick look at what they're doing over at LAL.

Possess Alpha 30ml - $68
Nude Alpha 30ml - $147

Obviously it's more costly to produce NA. So why is that NA is more popular among phero enthusiasts? How come we tend to not buy those $10 scam products all over Amazon?

(06-04-2018 4:21 AM)MacCauley Wrote:  Right on. We can take a quick look at what they're doing over at LAL.

Possess Alpha 30ml - $68
Nude Alpha 30ml - $147

Obviously it's more costly to produce NA. So why is that NA is more popular among phero enthusiasts? How come we tend to not buy those $10 scam products all over Amazon?

AD was full of shit. It was full of shit well before SteveO broke away, and still is.

I do not know the products of these different companies.

However $147 for 30ml.... What the actual fuck are you thinking.


That's highway robbery.


I made a mix with Alpha Androstenol Beta Androstenol and a massive amount of neno.

A pherobomb if you will.

Just in at about the neno was about 25mg yes you read that correctly, 25mg over the course of 3 hrs at a bar.

Neno is more powerful than people realize.

Women grabbed me... Like literally held on and did not want to let go.

I was going for instant shine... Less may be more

But it is neno.

And I was not even using technical grade, I had to strain supplements to get it.


I will say this. And it will not be a popular belief on this forums.



You guys are paying too damn much for these Pheromones.

In 4 years I thought more research would have been done.




Now as far as scam products, I have not tested any.

I could not say. But my nose I can pick out mixes with Pheromones.

They could be using sub par chemicals. Buying from china is risky. I read on the anabolic forums MANY powdera coming from china were sub par and some included cyanide, a deadly poison.

I would only trust SA and Stereloids for technical grade powders.


I will need a mini centrifuge and perhaps a jogging plate

To really do justice to diy Pheromones from suppliments.

I still have all of my older labware, from 50ml beakers to 5L EM Flasks