(11-25-2016 10:17 PM)DavidWebb Wrote: She def has cut out the emotional part out. She has stated that she is hurt/heartbroken and doesn't want to deal with "this". She doesn't care to rebuild the trust/emotional connection. However, we live together and actually spend a few hours of the day together. She isn't completely trying to avoid me (anymore), we don't go out alone (without the kids) and has started to open up a bit to communication, but avoids most conversations that have to deal with the relationship(emotional component). I'm slowly introducing certain conversations in attempts to reestablish an emotional connection. My goal is to at least get us into marriage counseling/therapy, along with continuing to work on it on our own.
Come summer (May/June) we need to move out and she has planned on moving out on her own and expects the same from me.
Oh okey. Am with ya. Am getting the picture here now.
Am gonna apologize in advance but my arse holeness is coming to ya, with the pure intention of seeing YOU being with her for the rest of urs amd ur kids life. Okey?

so bear it with me.
U'RE EXTREMELY BETA DAVID WEBBBBBB!!!! I need ya to do me a favor, slap ur face really hard, cos ya need to man up. YOU wanna introduce marriage counseling??? That's the most gayest beta s**t I heard for the day. By the looks of it theLaw is right. U defo ARE pu**y whipped. Seems like if she gives u one u give her 3 more to compensate that one she gave u.
I used to think that me dad was an arse hole. But now I think he's the most alpha bloke I'll EVER meet. Heck even am struggling to come to his level of alpha. He was never the angry alpha. But more like the "I know how to control a situation and I can MAKE it right" kinda alpha. They've (me mom and dad) been married for 32 years now. And they met each other about 35 years ago. Me dad always and I mean ALWAYS used to give only 2 for 3 things that me mom gave him. And I ACTUALLY read that same number in another blog and I can come to a conclusion that it works. I've applied that with many of the girls I know,and surprisingly it works.
Double R 619 here is absolutely correct. I couldn't agree with him more. His quote
"The one who cares the least in a relationship, is the one who wins". Who WINS. So it is a game or a battle or a tug of war. What ever ya wanna call it. It's a job u ain't getting paid for to keep everything together. Ur wife ur kids ur neighbors ur family ur friends ur dog ur cat. From now on, my seggestion, try to not give a flying fart in space for the next 6 months.
There's a good side in ur situation from the angel am seeing. And trust me there's ALWAYS a good side for ANY situation. U just gotta change the angel u look at. And if ya still can't see a good side from that angel,that's when ya need to go outside that box and start thinking outta the box.
So...
Good side: u have a few potential products. Xist is a potential product. In ME OWN humble opinion, the spray version is BETTER. cos it hits quicker amd harder. Goa is the other good product. Cos it hits so quick. In a blink of an eye. LITERALLY!! At least that's me own experience with it.
ME OWN SUGGESTION:Take it or leave it. And no harm done in any way,

try the products on OTHER girls ya know. Make sure ur wife KNOWS that other girls r falling for u. In the next 6 months, show her that u're more valuable than u were before. By the looks of it, and I could be wrong, but it seems to me that ur wife got suffocated by ur caring beta approaches. Leave her alone, for a while. Not completely, but for a while. Give her some space for Christs sakes, u're trying to push her into marriage counseling. That's soooo weird to me. Usually it's the wife who does that. So leave her alone when she wants the space amd start talking to her only when she does with a hint of I DGAF. Lemme spell it out to ya, that term stands for "I Don't Give A FART" I spelt fart cos the other word could be too offensive to some.
There were times that me dad COMPLETELY ignored me mom. Well,,, she couldn't bear it for more than 3 days, so she'd come up with something good to cook sometimes. And that's how she got his attention back then. I saw that and I applied that in me own life, and guess what? IT works.

so ignorance IS bliss after all. But in ur case, it's different. U're married so am not saying u should treat her like a ghost, but rather, slowly amd steadily start showing her that ya don't care too much. And use those products on other girls ya know, and find a way to show ur wife that u're more valuable than she thinks. U may hate me now David, but 10 20 30 50 70 years down the track u'll remember me.
I admit it, I always say to meself that am NEVER gonna get married. But for u I only wish that u and ur wife will stay together for ever and see ur kids together and see THEIR kids together. IN ONE HOUSE. Not separately. All the best mate. Hope it'll work out for ya.