But in all seriousness women rate men a lot more differently than men do. The male rating system is a bit more complex. Your rating will be based on a lot of things. Consider the following model of how female rate men:

Social status
Where are you in the current hierarchy? Are you in the top 1% or in the bottom, the higher up you are you better your result will be and the more females will be attracted to you.

Social circle & environment (lifestyle)
are you hanging out in a cool attractive environment? If you're hanging out in high end vip parties and are living the dream women will pick up on it and you get extra points.

Confidence/charisma and body language
Well this one is a no brainer if you're confident girls dig it, if you're not you lose points. Charisma also goes along with that, how you're able to charm a girl.

Your body language conveys a lot it usually is dependent on your inner state even if you're not consciously aware of it.

Inner state (aka what you are projecting)
Your inner state matter, it matters a lot. On a depressive day when you're projecting you're a loser basically you will find it very difficult to get laid. In contrast on a good day when you're feeling like you're the king you'll magnetically draw girls towards you.

Looks and grooming (your genetics and clothing, etc)
Yeah it's important, if you look healthy fit and athletic you get points for that. That includes physical fitness as mentioned, straight teeth, hair, good skin, ect. Your grooming is also part of it. Choose good clothes

Your voice and vocal pronunciation
Masculine deep voice is attractive, doesn't have to be super deep, but has to be strongBasically, the better you are at each of those, the easier you get girls.

Here's actually a test, rate each and every one of those attributes from 1-30. Add up the results and divide by 18, That's your score. Your score will be from 1 to 10. You will get girls below your level easily with virtually 0 game. Girls on your level sometimes you'll need a little bit of work. Girls above your level you'll find harder to get (that is without any game)

Example:

Let's say you're someone who has a pretty decent corporate job, some senior associate, you get a social status of like 20/30. You look and dress decent give it a 21/30. Your confidence and charisma are average 16/30. Vocally you're pretty good, you believe your voice is a bit better than the loser in the office let's give your voice 18/30. Your inner state.. well let's say you haven't been getting a lot of pussy recently, but you till have your job, your buddies have been pretty supportive so give the inner state a 13/30. Your environment is mostly some friends from school, work people from the. Depending on the city the rating of the social (if it's some shit hole it will have a higher rating cause it's a luxury). But let's say you have the normal Average Frustrated Chump environment 15/30.

So what do we have?

Status: 20
Environment: 15
Appearance: 21
Inner state: 13
Voice: 18
Personality(Confidence,Charisma): 16

Total: 103

Now divide that by 18. This guy's score would be 5.7. So basically this person would be about to get 5-6s without any game, getting a 7 would be a struggle, 8-10 is unreachable or like luck.

Remember that women have a mating strategy of mating someone on their level or above. (Excluding the true love factor which can happen, or well be gamed)

However, if this guy would improve his inner state for example he just had a threesome and has 30 points. Well now his score is 6.6, so he'll get 6-7 without game, 8 with a struggle. So yeah the state matters. And let's say you've been banging 7s for a month and you feel super confidence let's say 26/30. Now you'll have 7.2 score and you're closer to having an easier life in this.

But remember, a girl that you may think is a 8-9 may actually feel like a 6-7 or in comparison to other girls will be a 6 so don't be discouraged.

Improving your scores:

Status: risk taking, opening up a business, becoming a manager, earning more money, fame, etc

Inner state: having the life you want being have, mindfullness, meditation

Looks:
Taking care of yourself, healthy diet, gym, creams, cosmetic procedures, teeth lol, fashion, better clothes, clothes that fit your identity, etc.

Confidence & Charisma:
Confidence: That comes with experience, repetition
Charisma - developing your personality, acting school
social circle & enviroment: that's a choice, what helps is getting better hobbies and a better lifestyle. Making friends in female rich environments (dance schools, yoga, tantra, photographers' environment, modeling, filming, etc)

Voice: vocal coach, vocal warmups.
As you can see you can improve a lot of this. Now all 'Game' related. In a way pick up is a flaw in biology, it's a hack to be able to bypass the natural selection mechanism.

Women will generally just feel whether they like you or not. They can rationalize it however they want but it will come down to feelings. Game is our way of manipulating our way through the gene pool, which has been done through centuries by men(by lying for example or exploiting physical power). Mystery Method is a classic example with of the DHV making an illusion that you have a better rating than you actually have + negging to lower the girl's own score, the guy was definitely on to something which is why his method made a lot of sense.

The Black pill as far as I remember focuses only on looks and I believe it was mentioned in the start of that video. Well there's evidence that a lot of great-looking people still go to seduction coaches to learn game, even though they have very good looks so I believe there's more to it. Rich people with high status are also sometimes lonely, often get divorced, etc. So while looks are important it's not everything for a man.

Not sure which pill the model I mentioned would fit to since it's not really the traditional game that we all know. But I guess it leans more toward the red pill.

You are correct on something TracerX there was a book written on this very subject why women sleep with man height, smell, status, humour.

Those where to the top four reason the rest you need to read the book.

Why Women Have Sex: Women Reveal the Truth About Their Sex Lives, from Adventure to Revenge (and Everything in Between) Paperback – December 7, 2010
by Cindy M. Meston (Author), David M. Buss (Author)

An unparalleled exploration of the mysteries underlying women's sexuality that rivals the culture-shifting Kinsey Report, from two of America's leading research psychologists

Do women have sex simply to express love, experience pleasure, or reproduce? When clinical psychologist Cindy M. Meston and evolutionary psychologist David M. Buss, both at the University of Texas at Austin, joined forces to investigate women's underlying sexual motivations, what they found astonished them.

Using women's own words, and backed by extensive scientific evidence, the authors delve into the use of sex as a defensive tactic against a mate's infidelity, a ploy to boost social status, a barter for household chores, and even as a cure for a migraine headache. Meston and Buss offer a revelatory examination of the deep-seated psychology and biology that often unwittingly drive women to have sex, sometimes in pursuit of joy, and sometimes for darker, more disturbing reasons.

Why Women Have Sex stands as the richest and deepest psychological understanding of women's sexuality yet achieved and promises to inform every woman's (and her partner's) awareness of her relationship to sex.

(10-19-2022 8:26 AM)mdw Wrote:  You are correct on something TracerX there was a book written on this very subject why women sleep with man height, smell, status, humour.

Those where to the top four reason the rest you need to read the book.

Why Women Have Sex: Women Reveal the Truth About Their Sex Lives, from Adventure to Revenge (and Everything in Between) Paperback – December 7, 2010
by Cindy M. Meston (Author), David M. Buss (Author)

An unparalleled exploration of the mysteries underlying women's sexuality that rivals the culture-shifting Kinsey Report, from two of America's leading research psychologists

Do women have sex simply to express love, experience pleasure, or reproduce? When clinical psychologist Cindy M. Meston and evolutionary psychologist David M. Buss, both at the University of Texas at Austin, joined forces to investigate women's underlying sexual motivations, what they found astonished them.

Using women's own words, and backed by extensive scientific evidence, the authors delve into the use of sex as a defensive tactic against a mate's infidelity, a ploy to boost social status, a barter for household chores, and even as a cure for a migraine headache. Meston and Buss offer a revelatory examination of the deep-seated psychology and biology that often unwittingly drive women to have sex, sometimes in pursuit of joy, and sometimes for darker, more disturbing reasons.

Why Women Have Sex stands as the richest and deepest psychological understanding of women's sexuality yet achieved and promises to inform every woman's (and her partner's) awareness of her relationship to sex.

Ah thanks for reminding me to take a look into Buss, I was on the fence for getting that book why do women have sex. Repped

(10-19-2022 6:11 AM)TracerX Wrote:  Status: 20
Environment: 15
Appearance: 21
Inner state: 13
Voice: 18
Personality(Confidence,Charisma): 16

I believe the primary ingredient is your vibe for all women. On top of that there are deal breakers based on the woman you are dealing with.

Status - deal breaker for some women
Environment - deal breaker for certain women
Appearance - deal breaker for many women
Inner State - I think this is part of vibe
Voice - deal breaker for many women
Personality - deal breaker for some women

To be the object of a woman's desire you must have the vibe and must avoid any of her deal breakers. Less picky women have fewer deal breakers and more picky women have more deal breakers. But if your vibe is off then you get no women.

I am also in favor of the inner state being the basis

(10-19-2022 11:53 AM)metaltree Wrote:  I believe the primary ingredient is your vibe for all women. On top of that there are deal breakers based on the woman you are dealing with.

Status - deal breaker for some women
Environment - deal breaker for certain women
Appearance - deal breaker for many women
Inner State - I think this is part of vibe
Voice - deal breaker for many women
Personality - deal breaker for some women

To be the object of a woman's desire you must have the vibe and must avoid any of her deal breakers. Less picky women have fewer deal breakers and more picky women have more deal breakers. But if your vibe is off then you get no women.

Well vibe is how you make a woman feel. You could say all of these contribute to making some vibe. Both of you need to vibe together

(10-19-2022 2:05 PM)TracerX Wrote:  Well vibe is how you make a woman feel. You could say all of these contribute to making some vibe. Both of you need to vibe together

I see the "vibe" you give off as being a different concept from "vibing" with her. The words are similar because they both involve feelings. I see the "vibe" you give off as the innate energy of aura extending outward. I see "vibing" as sharing good feelings without someone through behavior.

Inner state can make up for deficits in other areas. For example, there are broke men that struggle to get by, they don’t have a job. Yet they come out the other side with 5 kids to different women. Sometimes they are super hot, sometimes they are ugly.


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(10-19-2022 5:51 AM)mdw Wrote:  This is like dating advice from a autistic person fucking painful

As a neurodivergent person myself, I can not appreciate when people make fun about this.

(10-19-2022 8:26 AM)mdw Wrote:  Why Women Have Sex: Women Reveal the Truth About Their Sex Lives, from Adventure to Revenge (and Everything in Between) Paperback – December 7, 2010
by Cindy M. Meston (Author), David M. Buss (Author)

Thanks for this tip. On its way. It was even available translated and second hand.