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BEFORE a young 9 can call you old you tell her….
06-27-2023 4:43 PM

Find a NICE, BOY.

# Younger women under 25 don’t like being told what to do. They’ll rebel.

# Younger models under 25 won’t bend over backwards to be fucked by a NICE guy


# Younger models under 25 don’t want BOYS they want MEN

Is my line genius or not? And would it work with CAS, NA, AV, BW or do you see mone congruence problems?

What gets pussy? Nice guy , submissive, nice guy mones. Bad guy, dominant, badass mones.

I am wrong to think na and CAs are nice guy mones? It seems BW and AM 2014(gone) are badass signatures.

Discuss.

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06-27-2023 5:40 PM

(06-27-2023 4:43 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Find a NICE, BOY.

# Younger women under 25 don’t like being told what to do. They’ll rebel.

# Younger models under 25 won’t bend over backwards to be fucked by a NICE guy


# Younger models under 25 don’t want BOYS they want MEN

Is my line genius or not? And would it work with CAS, NA, AV, BW or do you see mone congruence problems?

What gets pussy? Nice guy , submissive, nice guy mones. Bad guy, dominant, badass mones.

I am wrong to think na and CAs are nice guy mones? It seems BW and AM 2014(gone) are badass signatures.

Discuss.
Forgetting the mones for now....

Her pussy needs to want you. To achieve this, it might take complements, humorous playful insults, teasing, playing it cool, listening to her, not listening to her, being the nice guy, being aloof, or any combination.
But it needs to originate from your true character. Her instincts will tell her if you're so desperate that you're trying to be someone who you are not just to game her. And if you're desperate, that will leave her feeling repulsed by your advances and by your presence.

That is the core value of "being yourself".

Now, onto the mones. What's more important: a mix which helps you to project your virtues, or a mix which might stimulate her? Obviously ticking both boxes would be the best option, and sometimes the planets do align.

But a gay man wearing a unisex mix won't seduce a straight man. A man won't seduce a lesbian, irregardless of the mones he's wearing. And a woman won't be attracted to a man who has an attractive mone signature which is completely incongruent to his personality and behaviour.

If you want to seduce 25 year old hotties, then forget game or mones as your priorities. If you cannot be yourself and succeed, then it would be best to adapt your objectives. The alternative is to be prepared for constant rejection.

Sex and Mones and Rock'n'Roll....
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06-27-2023 11:33 PM

(06-27-2023 5:40 PM)LoveInSpain Wrote:  Forgetting the mones for now....

Her pussy needs to want you. To achieve this, it might take complements, humorous playful insults, teasing, playing it cool, listening to her, not listening to her, being the nice guy, being aloof, or any combination.
But it needs to originate from your true character. Her instincts will tell her if you're so desperate that you're trying to be someone who you are not just to game her. And if you're desperate, that will leave her feeling repulsed by your advances and by your presence.

That is the core value of "being yourself".

Now, onto the mones. What's more important: a mix which helps you to project your virtues, or a mix which might stimulate her? Obviously ticking both boxes would be the best option, and sometimes the planets do align.

But a gay man wearing a unisex mix won't seduce a straight man. A man won't seduce a lesbian, irregardless of the mones he's wearing. And a woman won't be attracted to a man who has an attractive mone signature which is completely incongruent to his personality and behaviour.

If you want to seduce 25 year old hotties, then forget game or mones as your priorities. If you cannot be yourself and succeed, then it would be best to adapt your objectives. The alternative is to be prepared for constant rejection.

Yes LIS I agree with you... Just remember the key is not to be yourself but the BEST version of yourself.

If you take someone whose bland who can only get 5's and you teach that person how to create push, pull, roleplay, disqualfy , qualify, and take a woman home that guy can improve his chances to lay much hotter women.

But he must pick techniques that don't seem like he's gaming her.. The techniques must resonate with him to the point they feel like natural game. Also how a techinique is delivered is just as important as what you say.

Practice in the field will eventually build the confidence to improve.

Ever see how the best actors practice like Johnny Depp. Look how many oddball roles he took, all different, yet to the naked eye no one can think he's faking. He explained his success came from not just acting the role but becoming the role over a period of 1-2 years before he ever stepped in front of a camera.

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06-28-2023 12:32 PM

I have a following view on hot 9's women under 25 years old.

From a geomaxing perspective:
Especially in western countries, the hot women are saturated with attractive men. In a city where there are many attractive and rich men and the city has a higher quota of men, the demands of women are significantly higher. For example, if you go to Thailand, many men succeed in HB9er even if you don't have a good game. Many of these men are not bad boys because Thai women are not saturated with attractive men. When she meets a man from Europe, the woman is very hungry.

From the Redpill/Blackpill perspective
Most badboys have hunter eyes. According to Looksmaxing theory, eyes and hunter looks are the most important areas when it comes to an attractive appearance. Badboys have masculine energy and attractive body language. They have an upright posture and an energetic gait. From the Redpill perspective, these men are confident, masculine, and are internally strong, or at least appear internally strong. Men with a masculine body language and facial expressions are perceived as dominant, self-confident and masculine.
From the Blackpill perspective, men with self-confident body language appear more attractive on the outside. If a man doesn't have an upright posture and walks with tired eyes, he doesn't look attractive.

Women under the age of 25 pay more attention to their looks than women who are older. Older women pay more attention to money and status.
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06-28-2023 9:27 PM

(06-27-2023 11:33 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Just remember the key is not to be yourself but the BEST version of yourself.

Watch a video of Kamala Harris trying to be the best version of herself. It's cringeworthy.

Johnny Depp only has to act for five minutes at a time, and he may need to take many takes before he gets it right. Even though he knows the plot and memorized the script and lines, he's still not able to get it right all the time.

Being yourself is really about being relaxed. Not thinking or caring about the outcome but just being in the moment. It's better to adlib and be real. Unless you can't. Then you gotta do what you gotta do.

You want to know the truth, but then when it's given to you; you don't know what to do with it.
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06-30-2023 4:42 AM

(06-27-2023 4:43 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Find a NICE, BOY.

# Younger women under 25 don’t like being told what to do. They’ll rebel.

# Younger models under 25 won’t bend over backwards to be fucked by a NICE guy


# Younger models under 25 don’t want BOYS they want MEN


It's not. don't do/say this, it's cringe.

Make yourself the best you can be. Go get the 9s/10s you want with what ever you can (except that cringe line) Usually the girl will show interest before you even get to her.

If she's into you, keep going, isolate, escalate, penetrate.

If she's not into you, keep it movin' to the next chick who is.
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Eventually you'll be able to move really fast, and waste less of your time.

Try going to a really large club or something, and hit on the hottest girls you can in opposite parts of the venue. if you hit, then you hit, if not, try again the next day/night/weekend.

Or find a place you feel comfortable approaching bar/coffeeshop/museum/meetup group etc. . .

OR if you have money, start a magazine and recruit like 50 hot models, a photographer,(make sure he's ugly or a woman), some female writers and bang girls (9s) that way. I know a guy who did this, basically his Magazine makes enough money so that he can take the girls on location to some island somewhere and shoot videos, they get sponsorships from clothing companies etc etc. Then he claims a lot of that on his taxes so even though he doesn't make much money through the magazine, he expenses everything so that he pays close to ZERO taxes on this REGULAR job income(he has a really good job that pays). ...AND he gets to bang 9s all the time...

If a young 9 can calls you old, she's not into you enough. You want girls(yes 9s) that are INTO you. Not, "maybe" into you, not "let's see if he can impress me" into you. I.N.T.O you, PERIOD. If a 9 is I.N.T.O you she won't care if you're "old" or "young", or whatever. most of the time age won't come up. If it does she's either NOT into you, OR is afraid that her friends This takes about 10-15 minutes to figure out once you start talking to her.

Point is, you're wasting time trying to see if you can magically wordsmith your way into some pussy that isn't into you(it can be done, but you have to get good at it, meaning you have to try and fail hundreds if not thousands of times with that method). If you can find a 9 who is I.N.T.O you won't need to do all that.

If you CAN'T find a 9 that is that into you. Then you gotta look at being able to be that man that she IS into. This means grinding some skill, point of fame, gym and tinder with great pictures etc etc... Or just make a lot of money.

Of course products help, but you've used tons of products over like ten years, so you should know which ones are the best for your quest, in addition to grinding to get to where you want to be.

(06-28-2023 9:27 PM)RussianWolf Wrote:  >>>Being yourself is really about being relaxed. Not thinking or caring about the outcome but just being in the moment.<<<

Thing is, this takes time to cultivate. But with enough grind, anyone can get there.
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06-30-2023 11:31 AM

(06-30-2023 4:42 AM)CJ_W Wrote:  It's not. don't do/say this, it's cringe.

Make yourself the best you can be. Go get the 9s/10s you want with what ever you can (except that cringe line) Usually the girl will show interest before you even get to her.

If she's into you, keep going, isolate, escalate, penetrate.

If she's not into you, keep it movin' to the next chick who is.
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Eventually you'll be able to move really fast, and waste less of your time.

Try going to a really large club or something, and hit on the hottest girls you can in opposite parts of the venue. if you hit, then you hit, if not, try again the next day/night/weekend.

Or find a place you feel comfortable approaching bar/coffeeshop/museum/meetup group etc. . .

OR if you have money, start a magazine and recruit like 50 hot models, a photographer,(make sure he's ugly or a woman), some female writers and bang girls (9s) that way. I know a guy who did this, basically his Magazine makes enough money so that he can take the girls on location to some island somewhere and shoot videos, they get sponsorships from clothing companies etc etc. Then he claims a lot of that on his taxes so even though he doesn't make much money through the magazine, he expenses everything so that he pays close to ZERO taxes on this REGULAR job income(he has a really good job that pays). ...AND he gets to bang 9s all the time...

If a young 9 can calls you old, she's not into you enough. You want girls(yes 9s) that are INTO you. Not, "maybe" into you, not "let's see if he can impress me" into you. I.N.T.O you, PERIOD. If a 9 is I.N.T.O you she won't care if you're "old" or "young", or whatever. most of the time age won't come up. If it does she's either NOT into you, OR is afraid that her friends This takes about 10-15 minutes to figure out once you start talking to her.

Point is, you're wasting time trying to see if you can magically wordsmith your way into some pussy that isn't into you(it can be done, but you have to get good at it, meaning you have to try and fail hundreds if not thousands of times with that method). If you can find a 9 who is I.N.T.O you won't need to do all that.

If you CAN'T find a 9 that is that into you. Then you gotta look at being able to be that man that she IS into. This means grinding some skill, point of fame, gym and tinder with great pictures etc etc... Or just make a lot of money.

Of course products help, but you've used tons of products over like ten years, so you should know which ones are the best for your quest, in addition to grinding to get to where you want to be.

Beautiful hb9’s in the 20’s will never be into men in their 50’s unless one looks like Depp or Pitt or Clooney. Even then these men 50+ need to lead the young’n all the way from meet to bedroom. It’s the nature of the difference in age. Look at sugar daddies. If all it took was for hot 21 yo hb9’s to be into them they wouldn’t need to dish out thousands of $$$ to get laid. This is even more true for billionaires.

A man who’s 50’s who’s good looking enough to pass for 30’s can just talk, dress and hangout with 20’s crowd provided he conceals/hides his real age. This is the art based on camaflouge. Also some pheromones can make you look younger too like those which contain beautifiers.

When I was 47 and used to wear M3x 2017 or L2k 2014 young models engaged me if I was Depp in a nightclub full of millionaires. The came onto me, touched me, seduced me asking me about my dreams. 21 yo hb10’s seducing a 47 yo in the seediest of places like a train station!

The greatest mones are all gone or changed. Casanova is good but not nearly as good as L2k 2014/2018. We lost a lot of older forum members in 2018 after these great mones became obsolete. Paradox, V-nice, MMM, Nikki-reloaded, HappyGoSkillfully all disappeared after these mones died out. They were all HEAVY users of either M3x 2017 or L2k 2014/2018.

It’s not coincidence.

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Mid-50ies here and I've experienced hits with really young girls down to 23. Not every time I'm out, but for the 10 or 15 occasions per year that I go clubbing, surprisingly often. My personal age of consent is 25, so I am not really interested in the barely legal ones, and no, I don't fuck them. But more than one I'm sure I could have if I would have gone for it.
There are enough that are tired of their age peers and want a man at least once.
Might be a cultural thing as well, I don't know how it is in Canada, but both in Europe as well as in the southwest US I've made good experience.
Oh, and I've made my own secret sauce Beau exactly for this: to fit in the young crowd.

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(06-30-2023 1:10 PM)Marcus Antonius Wrote:  Mid-50ies here and I've experienced hits with really young girls down to 23. Not every time I'm out, but for the 10 or 15 occasions per year that I go clubbing, surprisingly often. My personal age of consent is 25, so I am not really interested in the barely legal ones, and no, I don't fuck them. But more than one I'm sure I could have if I would have gone for it.
There are enough that are tired of their age peers and want a man at least once.
Might be a cultural thing as well, I don't know how it is in Canada, but both in Europe as well as in the southwest US I've made good experience.
Oh, and I've made my own secret sauce Beau exactly for this: to fit in the young crowd.

Hi

Where can I find details about how to buy Beau and is it as good as l2k 2014?

What does it do?

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(06-30-2023 1:17 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Hi

Where can I find details about how to buy Beau and is it as good as l2k 2014?

What does it do?

It's Marcus Antonius's homemade stuff

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