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Ascend vs A314 for confidence and to be recognized as an expert
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Ascend vs A314 for confidence and to be recognized as an expert
09-26-2017 9:37 PM

What would work well to help me (a 43 white male) sell a service to very rich men that can help them a lot?

I get intimidated by potential clients. I find it hard to approach them and hard to create a rapport.

Furthermore, despite the fact my results are measurably better than 98% of my competitors, I don't get the vibe that people respect me as an expert--even when talking to people who don't intimidate me.


Based on extensive searches I have come up with the following list of pheromones that seem to fit the bill, and am wondering what you guys think:

Most promising
Ascend
A314

Contenders
Wolf
API
TUSC
Captain
Titan

Possibly too sexual
Aqua Vitae
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09-26-2017 9:44 PM

Not wolf. A314 alone is too intimidating and people don’t want to talk to me unless I buffer it with p96 or something that toned it down. I’ve never used ascend.

Titan is too fun. Tusc might be good.

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09-26-2017 11:20 PM

(09-26-2017 9:44 PM)BigDickBandit420 Wrote:  A314 alone is too intimidating and people don’t want to talk to me unless I buffer it with p96 or something that toned it down.

...Tusc might be good.
I take it that if you had to choose between A314 by itself and Tusc, you would use Tusc, is that correct?
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09-27-2017 12:08 AM

Yes, absolutely TUSC solo > A314 solo.

Kalpan56 said unscented TUSC at 1 drop is as good as multiple drops of scented in his journal. I can't verify that.

TUSC is a great status blend IMO. It took me about a month to figure out what it's doing and how to steer it.

I don't think AV is going to give you the trust/respect/expert angle. It feels party boy like.

I'd narrow it down to Ascend, Captain, API and TUSC. I'd pick TUSC out of those four because I know how it acts, how to be congruent with it, and know it is a good product. I've had some experience with Captain but not enough to figure out what it's doing and how to steer it.

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If you truly become high value, you no longer have to mimic the action or follow the beliefs of high-value men

Having the courage to not make hitting on girls creepy is all you need.
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09-27-2017 10:20 AM

not sure a month long learning curve is ideal though for someone who hasn't used a product. that would put me off personally but probably worth a shot.
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09-27-2017 10:42 AM

(09-27-2017 10:20 AM)right_mr Wrote:  not sure a month long learning curve is ideal though for someone who hasn't used a product. that would put me off personally but probably worth a shot.

It is worth it for something like Ascend - Status mixes tend to be more complex compared to other Pheromones and do take a bit longer to get to grips with.

I'll also add that Ascend, with a little Evolve produced some of the most remarkable confidence self-effects that I've had from any phero/combination and I'm usually not that prone to major self-effects with most other products.

I'll second TUSC as worth looking into for work - I'm finding it petty useful, although I do find a light cover scent applied near the oil app points helps it considerably across the day.
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09-30-2017 12:40 AM

(09-27-2017 10:42 AM)polarvoid Wrote:  It is worth it for something like Ascend - Status mixes tend to be more complex compared to other Pheromones and do take a bit longer to get to grips with.

I'll also add that Ascend, with a little Evolve produced some of the most remarkable confidence self-effects that I've had from any phero/combination and I'm usually not that prone to major self-effects with most other products.

I'll second TUSC as worth looking into for work - I'm finding it petty useful, although I do find a light cover scent applied near the oil app points helps it considerably across the day.

Agree...

Ascend = VIP.
Ascend + evolve = Rockstar (remarkable self effects like polarvoid describes, but effects diminish greatly after 2 days wear for me)
Tusc = senior partner at a law firm. Dependable, trustworthy.
Titan = Status and sexy (contains heavily dilluted cops!)
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09-30-2017 10:41 PM

How does Ascend+Evolve compare to Tusc for work?
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10-01-2017 1:50 AM

(09-30-2017 10:41 PM)LightHouse Wrote:  How does Ascend+Evolve compare to Tusc for work?

Depends what kind of vibe you want to project and if you can be congruent with it. Tusc at least for me is serious, dependable, trustworthy vibe. Ascend is more upbeat IMO but still very alpha/BOSS with great selfies.

Pick one or both and go from there. We won't be able to give you more than pointers because it's all individually. There's a learning phase. I'd pick Ascend (no cops for work) or Titan.

Titan is also fuckjuice, but that's not what you're asking haha.
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10-01-2017 4:54 AM

(09-30-2017 10:41 PM)LightHouse Wrote:  How does Ascend+Evolve compare to Tusc for work?

Ascend is decent - although I have had people discomforted by the cops version but the non-cops, great but it is lighter/smarter vibe. With evolve, no not for me on a general basis but a different workplace with a more social/playful environment might be a different matter.

TUSC is the nearest I've come to an alternative to A314 at work yet - Although I do find TUSC has a more superficial smart/jaunty layer that makes me wonder if it has a "beautifier" of some kind in the mix - but that is sometimes no bad thing. But once that settles down its all good. Smile
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