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"Dark Side" of Oxytocin - txi0m - 08-06-2011 12:34 AM

http://truthdive.com/2011/08/02/The-Darker-Side-of-the-cuddle-chemical-revealed.html Wrote:Washington, August 02 (ANI): It was earlier known that oxytocin- the "cuddle chemical"- promotes positive feelings, and is the hormone that helps mothers bond with their babies. But a recent research has found that it can promote negative emotions, too.

"Quite a number of studies have shown it's actually not that simple," said Andrew Kemp of the University of Sydney, who co-wrote the paper with his colleague Adam Guastella.

Recent studies have found that people who were given oxytocin, then played a game of chance with a fake opponent, had more envy and gloating. These are also both social emotions, but they're negative.

"It kind of rocked the research world a little bit," added Kemp.

That led some researchers to think that oxytocin promotes social emotions in general, both negative and positive.

But Kemp and Guastella think oxytocin's role is slightly different. Rather than supporting all social emotions, they thought it plays a role in promoting what psychologists call approach-related emotions. These are emotions that have to do with wanting something, as opposed to shrinking away.

"If you look at the Oxford English Dictionary for envy, it says that the definition of envy is to wish oneself on a level with another, in happiness or with the possession of something desirable," said Kemp.

"It's an approach-related emotion: I want what you have," added Kemp.

Gloating is also about approach, he said; people who are gloating are happy-a positive, approach-related emotion-about having more than their opponent and about that person's misfortune.

The study has been published in the Current Directions in Psychological Science, a journal of the Association for Psychological Science. (ANI)

So what you're saying is don't wear it into a casino AMIRITE??


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - dexter - 08-08-2011 6:27 PM

(08-06-2011 12:34 AM)txi0m Wrote:  So what you're saying is don't wear it into a casino AMIRITE??

This could be a good thesis paper for some lucky chump. As Oxytocin creates an approach emotion instead of just the "bonding" emotion. How about this idea: "Oxytocin as an approach emotion facilitator: creating both the bond of mother/newborn and the neurostimulated jealousy of both infant siblings and housepets".

Could oxytocin make people want to bond, and then cause the jealousy that little kids have for their parents attention when a new brother/sister is born?

Also could it be what causes sibling rivalries? kids vying for mom's attention, competing with each other based on hormonal cues that are taken differently with different contexts? The context being, oxytocin + Mom = bond with mom, oxytocin + mom + sibling = compete with sibling to bond with mom.

A few shots in the dark, I would call this a derivative or second derivitive in math terms. It isn't the amount of hormone the oxytocin creates in your body, but how it is compared to other hormones or external stimulation for a relative ratio contributing to a emotional physiological/effect.


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - Fincaboy - 11-14-2011 8:27 AM

(08-08-2011 6:27 PM)dexter Wrote:  This could be a good thesis paper for some lucky chump. As Oxytocin creates an approach emotion instead of just the "bonding" emotion. How about this idea: "Oxytocin as an approach emotion facilitator: creating both the bond of mother/newborn and the neurostimulated jealousy of both infant siblings and housepets".

Could oxytocin make people want to bond, and then cause the jealousy that little kids have for their parents attention when a new brother/sister is born?

Also could it be what causes sibling rivalries? kids vying for mom's attention, competing with each other based on hormonal cues that are taken differently with different contexts? The context being, oxytocin + Mom = bond with mom, oxytocin + mom + sibling = compete with sibling to bond with mom.

A few shots in the dark, I would call this a derivative or second derivitive in math terms. It isn't the amount of hormone the oxytocin creates in your body, but how it is compared to other hormones or external stimulation for a relative ratio contributing to a emotional physiological/effect.


Are there any Pheromone products with Oxytocin do you know?


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - idontknow - 11-14-2011 8:59 AM

True Trust and Liquid Trust are the ones i know.

Had some great hits with True Trust, idk if it was the Oxytocin in it, or the pheromones, but it was very short-lived.


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - clockw0rk - 03-15-2016 1:52 PM

Connekt and Attrakt by Vero Labs (same maker of Liquid Trust) also have oxytocin in it.


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - NP17 - 03-15-2016 2:15 PM

I got mine from PTreas


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - Nicksw - 03-15-2016 3:01 PM

SXD-9 and Voodoo from LAL most likely have Oxytocin. This is speculation from several users, and having used both regularly the past few months I can definitely see the effects mentioned above, especially in Voodoo.


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - Ekscentra - 03-15-2016 4:04 PM

A number of HAX mixes contain oxytocin. Imprint from Apex also contains oxytocin.


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - RussianWolf - 03-15-2016 4:18 PM

Oxytocin is used to induce labor, something to think about


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - CptLeon - 03-15-2016 7:22 PM

(03-15-2016 4:04 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  A number of HAX mixes contain oxytocin. Imprint from Apex also contains oxytocin.

Is it proven that Imprint has oxytocin or just observed?


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - Ekscentra - 03-15-2016 8:38 PM

(03-15-2016 7:22 PM)CptLeon Wrote:  Is it proven that Imprint has oxytocin or just observed?

I'm not sure if this is public knowledge (and I apologize to thundr if it's not), but this was confirmed by him through PM some time ago.


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - DarkLord1 - 03-15-2016 9:45 PM

(03-15-2016 8:38 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  I'm not sure if this is public knowledge (and I apologize to thundr if it's not), but this was confirmed by him through PM some time ago.


Interesting...I wonder how the oxytocin is preserved in imprint. When I bought liquid trust, the company told me to keep it in the fridge to help it last, but I don't keep imprint in the fridge and it seems to be fine.

Would a carrier act as a preservative?


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - renny - 03-16-2016 7:25 AM

(03-15-2016 4:18 PM)RussianWolf Wrote:  Oxytocin is used to induce labor, something to think about
My Love is a midwife so I always explain that and ask if I'm buying something for her. Manufacturers might want to consider this to be something that should be disclosed. There is no evidence that it's as a pheromone can induce labor (at least that I am aware of. It is given IV for induction or augmentation). We stopped all pheromone use when she was pregnant not because of perceived danger but simply because they grew too unpredictable with her hormones racing about in all directions.


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - NP17 - 03-16-2016 8:49 AM

Dexter said that when he used 1 mcg of Oxytocin around his pregnant wife, she had premature labor contractions. They went away when he washed it off. He then calculated the dose used for inducing labor, and it's about 1 mcg. They use a titration of some nanograms per minute. And Oxytocin is not only used to induce birth, but also miscarriages or abortions. This molecule worries me a bit, because I know many women that have been traumatized long-term by miscarriages, and intentional abortions they're even more reluctant to talk about.


RE: "Dark Side" of Oxytocin - RussianWolf - 03-16-2016 12:55 PM

I worked at a Animal Hospital, and the women employees were warned about those possible side effects. To be honest, we never let the women handle it. Its given with a needle, but it will absorb through the skin, just like epinephrine. Learned that one the hard way! Forgot to use gloves when administering, and a drop fell on my hand. Extreme rapid pulse within minutes. And Oxytocin is to be refrigerated.