(05-18-2011 7:34 PM)dbot Wrote: [ -> ]Man I just can't get enough of this stuff. I'm already mixing up another sprayer, this time at 37.5mcg. Today I wore it with the new Glace. I'll post my full report over in the new Glace review thread, but all you really need to know is: 
I've been abbreviating pregnenolone as nenolone, so it will easily remain differentiated from pregnanolone, but I'm thinking we could shorten that even more down to neno. Kinda cute, actually. Anybody object to neno?
I went over to the AD forum to read up on P104 and P78.
The reports on P104 didn't really sound anything like my experiences with neno. People reported ditzy airheadedness and laughter pretty consistently.
However, many of the P78 reports match my reports here very closely: someone called it "Instant Charisma" (didn't I say the same thing somewhere?); many reported increased sociability and personal magnetism, overall "good" feelings, mood elevation, emotional stability; one person even reported that P78 and Instant Openness made a dynamic pair! Most testing on P78 was at the 12-30mcg range, but a few reported results in the 50mcg range comparable to what I've been seeing with neno, and a couple went up as high as 200mcg without ill effects. The effects sounded very much like those that I've experienced. Several have also noted that P78 is a fun pheromone all on its own, much like neno.
Some people have reported that P78 made them horny. I haven't really experienced that with neno -- has anyone else here? But I have gotten some sensory-enhancement effects comparable to those reported by P78 users.
Based on similarities between my neno reports and P78 reports, I'm inclined to think that P78 is pregnenolone.
But we still need data from more testers before we can say for sure.
Johnny - can you say some more about what aspects of neno remind you of P104 and P78? I haven't used either of those putatives so I'm only going on reports, not direct comparison.
I'm still in the testing phase.
First, I think neno concurs with none better as solo. Alpha Androstenol seems to damp the neno effects, P78 also. P78 is also sexual, need much less mcg, hits far better. Neno is for me more understated and also unconstant on strangers. I don't see by now the sexual effects on women and charisma and buddy effects on men, more like P104, if ever... Women I already know are really open, strong jabbering, relax, funny and teenage like with neno, but nothing exciting like P78. No honey effect with neno.
I test neno with 50-100mcg by now.
P78:
Works already with only 15mcg, with 30mcg it hits really fast and hard, but has also side-effects.. Even higher the dose 30mcg+, even catchier. It's charisma in the bottle but it works much better with none and TAC or P96 as None and also P78 buffers. P78 is tricky, it's also really sexual (deep) for women. (Read also Dianes P78 post at AD, sexual better as Methoxyestratetraenone and I see it also). Guys loves you, charisma, buddy, buddy effects. Charisma and sexual effects on women. All in all also a really humor booster, everything is laughter... Strange golden eyes effects on women and men. You can really see this golden eyes on them. Women also like to sniff of P78. Alpha Androstenol damp the P78 effect. Self effects are great but also becomes weaker at times, also the honey effect. Own focus is on me. Anti-anxiety. P78 don't relax women that much, it's exciting!
P104
First, read also the women thread at AD and the first posts as P104 comes out in the male thread.
Works with 30mcg , better with 50mcg and even higher, unconstant attraction effects, more on women, but if it hits it hits hard, stare effects, strong hypnotic effects. Eyes seems bigger, more glance. Sensuality boost and connection. Bonding effect on women, works best on women you already knows. Men reacts first on your behavior (jokes). Own focus is on everything. Anti-anxiety effects. Strong humor booster. P104 smells similar to neno.
Mood elevating are both.
