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10-14-2015 3:34 AM

My NA and Androstadienone arrived and I gave them a test run this afternoon. 2 drops of NA and 40mg of Androstadienone .

Pleased with the results but that's not why I posted.

I'm aware of Androstadienone causing depression but right now, about 3 and a half hours after application I feel physically very average. Mental fogginess, very low energy and a feeling like my body's various systems are overactive, in detox mode or something.

Does this sound like a common Androstadienone symptom to anyone?
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10-14-2015 5:30 AM

Yes, that's exactly what Androstadienone can do to you. I'd recommending replacing it with P96, since you're clearly prone to Androstadienone depression. What you're experiencing is only the beginning. The more you use Androstadienone , the more you'll sensitize yourself to those negative effects.
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10-14-2015 8:44 AM

I'm back to taking DHEA (25mg) and 7-keto (200 mg) per day in the morning, and all reactions to A-1 in a negative manner have once again disappeared for me.

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10-16-2015 11:28 PM

Hmmm....I tested again at the same dosage and report no ill effects.

I guess I will find out soon enough.

Also I have a question regarding the importance of cover scents for the purpose of diffusion. Basically how necessary are they?

Finally I've got some Core coming my way, I think I read in a thread that you Ekscentra said that Core goes well with NA but I can't for the life of me find it to confirm. Is this the case or am I mistaken?
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10-17-2015 12:59 AM

You'll definitely want a cover scent for 95% of the mixes you'll use, whether that's in the form of a scent package or through using a separate scent.

Correct, I did say CORE mixes well with NA, and just about everything else too.
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10-23-2015 4:05 AM

Yuk I know this such a noob question but I'm looking for reasonably specific instructions. Tomorrow I'm looking at unleashing my NA & Androstadienone on a target.

Since both are unscented I presume a cover scent is required. Fine.

Now my question is do I apply the scent before or after the mones?

Must they be on the same skin or merely near each other.

I've never done the cover scent thing with unscented mones and I don't want to mess this up.

Any other info that might help? I was actually hoping to run this combo with CORE but it hasn't arrived yet.

Actually whilst perusing the NA review thread I noticed that NA/Androstadienone & Glace is apparently a killer combo. Now I don't have Glace but I've got a sample of Hypnotica Social. You guys think I should add a little HS to the mix?

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10-23-2015 6:42 AM

On or near the scent are both fine.

I think Glace is a poor idea. Alpha -nol comes off as superficial at low doses. This is the last thing you want with NA + Androstadienone . Hypnotica would be better, but I'd avoid Alpha -nol except to establish rapport. After that, drop it in favor of Beta -nol, P74, and/or MeO-NOL.
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11-02-2015 11:17 PM

It looks like I definitely suffer from Androstadienone depression. Sexual encounter with target left me with feelings of seediness. My mix was NA (2 drops) IH (1 spray) & Androstadienone (30mg)

Interestingly I now want nothing to do with her whereas previously I was very much more into her than she was into me I think. Maybe that dynamic contributed to the feeling I mentioned however the Androstadienone certainly magnified it significantly in my opinion. I probably felt uncomfortable in my skin for 3 days. Note that this was the sixth such encounter and the first to produce these feelings, and the first in which I used Androstadienone .

I'm actually pleased with this result to be honest because I knew this wasn't leading anywhere but I was too damn into her to properly acknowledge her faults.

Anyway I'm still waiting for my damned Core so I'm still rocking Wolf as an everydayer but I'm interested in spicing it up a bit. Any ideas for something to combo with it? I've found Wolf to be smooth and safe but now I'm feeling a little bit dangerous and in the mood for some interesting reactions. I'm actually in the market for a proper Alpha product now. I've been reluctant to go for a hard Alpha in the past because I'm more of a quiet type but screw it man, let's explore this world. Plus I do have some alpha qualities.

Any suggestions on some good hard alpha products? Also despite the Androstadienone problems I feel that this molecule is too important to give up on just yet. Maybe there's a product containing Androstadienone you could recommend that's buffered to reduce any ill-effects I might try. What might you guys suggest, specifically to pair with NA? Cohesion? GOA? Imprint?

I'd definitely attribute NA for the most noticeable hits I've had lately. Really looking forward to pairing it with Core.

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11-02-2015 11:44 PM

(11-02-2015 11:17 PM)moondragon99 Wrote:  Anyway I'm still waiting for my damned Core so I'm still rocking Wolf as an everydayer but I'm interested in spicing it up a bit. Any ideas for something to combo with it? I've found Wolf to be smooth and safe but now I'm feeling a little bit dangerous and in the mood for some interesting reactions. I'm actually in the market for a proper Alpha product now. I've been reluctant to go for a hard Alpha in the past because I'm more of a quiet type but screw it man, let's explore this world. Plus I do have some alpha qualities.

It sounds like Bad Wolf. Even though it's a completely different mix, this is the thought process behind Garry making Bad Wolf. And it's quite effective for what it does. Give that a try. I'm happy with my BW.

Quote:Any suggestions on some good hard alpha products? Also despite the Androstadienone problems I feel that this molecule is too important to give up on just yet. Maybe there's a product containing Androstadienone you could recommend that's buffered to reduce any ill-effects I might try. What might you guys suggest, specifically to pair with NA? Cohesion? GOA? Imprint?

I'd definitely attribute NA for the most noticeable hits I've had lately. Really looking forward to pairing it with Core.

Yes, Androstadienone is amazing, but it's faaaar less effective when buffered by DHEA or other molecules. It's truly an amazing molecule in terms of attraction, but it comes at the cost of your soul Vampire
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11-03-2015 1:48 AM

Quote:Yes, Androstadienone is amazing, but it's faaaar less effective when buffered by DHEA or other molecules. It's truly an amazing molecule in terms of attraction, but it comes at the cost of your soul Vampire

You really think any mix containing dienone must necessarily detract from the molecule itself? You feel that solo with no other mixes or molecules is the most effective way to use androstadienone? I'm also curious what you mean by at the cost of your soul, can you elaborate?

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