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Worst night ever with Sob oil but great self effect
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05-07-2015 1:23 PM

(05-07-2015 1:18 PM)theLaw Wrote:  "And slightly OT: Am I the only one who's had no problems with the PXS Euro droppers? It sounds like Alpha360 may have dosed far more than just a drop if he took the cap off beforehand as it appears he did. Still, it's hard to see how anyone has difficulty using this type of dropper unless the mix is entirely alcohol-based - it's really just a matter of shaking the bottle, flipping it over, then waiting for the desired number of drops to fall into the palm of one's hand. After this, I rub the mix all over my neck. This simple method has worked fine for me each and every time. It could be that most of us are just over-complicating things as we often do, but I for one find Steve's dropper bottles perfectly acceptable and have had no problems as yet."

I am a big fan of PXS, but I have now experienced 2 droppers where too much product was released or product leaked during shipping. This may just be the nature of the euro-dropper. Then there is the issue of viscosity of the product. Voodoo (bulb dropper) just gushes out, while other mixes are fine. PXS products are particularly vulnerable given the amount of mones in each drop.

Love the products, but we need a better application method (I've moved most of my mixes to bulb droppers).

I agree. I far prefer bulb droppers and wish Steve would provide an option for this on the product page or during check-out as with LAL. In fact, I'll go ahead and send this by Steve ASAP. Frankly, I'm surprised I haven't thought to do this already.

As for LAL, most of their products run like alcohol, and so a bulb dropper is a must here. Due to the consistency of their products, I've never even considered the idea of using a Euro dropper, and let's not even mention the annoyances of the roll-on method...

Right, enough OT. I think this thread has about reached its end.
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05-07-2015 1:33 PM

(05-07-2015 12:52 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  The point? You have to adjust the mixes you use to your gender, target audience, ethnicity, environment, and perhaps most importantly, your intentions.

I would argue that congruence is more important than intent: the individual wearing the product must show some semblance to the aura they are projecting otherwise it is not believable or convincing to anyone. I.E. a introverted beta male sitting in the corner of the club waiting for someone to show them attention could wear the most sexual rip-off-the-clothes-and-lets-fuck mix but he's still going to go home alone and frustrated, while the extrovert self assured alpha male doesn't need to wear a damn thing and can usually leave the club with a hot chick on any given night.

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05-07-2015 1:39 PM

(05-07-2015 1:33 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  I would argue that congruence is more important than intent: the individual wearing the product must show some semblance to the aura they are projecting otherwise it is not believable or convincing to anyone. I.E. a introverted beta male sitting in the corner of the club waiting for someone to show them attention could wear the most sexual rip-off-the-clothes-and-lets-fuck mix but he's still going to go home alone and frustrated, while the extrovert self assured alpha male doesn't need to wear a damn thing and can usually leave the club with a hot chick on any given night.
Yes, but congruence often follows intentions on some level, so I didn't feel the need to mention that here. It's an important point though, as with the mixes Alpha360 is using here, congruence is particularly important. Bad Wolf seems to be the most demanding mix of all in terms of congruence. Given his behavior here, I can see incongruence as being another major factor in his disastrous results, but again, I would list that under intent.
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05-07-2015 1:43 PM

(05-07-2015 1:33 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  I would argue that congruence is more important than intent: the individual wearing the product must show some semblance to the aura they are projecting otherwise it is not believable or convincing to anyone. I.E. a introverted beta male sitting in the corner of the club waiting for someone to show them attention could wear the most sexual rip-off-the-clothes-and-lets-fuck mix but he's still going to go home alone and frustrated, while the extrovert self assured alpha male doesn't need to wear a damn thing and can usually leave the club with a hot chick on any given night.


Hey Mark,

Have you ever seen a mix that was powerful enough to work reagardless of congruence? This, unfortunately, appears to be the "grail" some are looking for w/mones.

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05-07-2015 1:58 PM

(05-07-2015 1:43 PM)theLaw Wrote:  Hey Mark,

Have you ever seen a mix that was powerful enough to work reagardless of congruence? This, unfortunately, appears to be the "grail" some are looking for w/mones.

Thanks! Smile

No I haven't and I do not think one could exist because what the brain perceives and how it reacts will conform to match what our senses are telling us, and if one of those senses doesn't align with what the other senses are telling the brain, it will create confusion and likely be discarded it as chatter.

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05-07-2015 2:50 PM

(05-07-2015 12:52 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  And slightly OT: Am I the only one who's had no problems with the PXS Euro droppers? It sounds like Alpha360 may have dosed far more than just a drop if he took the cap off beforehand as it appears he did. Still, it's hard to see how anyone has difficulty using this type of dropper unless the mix is entirely alcohol-based - it's really just a matter of shaking the bottle, flipping it over, then waiting for the desired number of drops to fall into the palm of one's hand. After this, I rub the mix all over my neck. This simple method has worked fine for me each and every time. It could be that most of us are just over-complicating things as we often do, but I for one find Steve's dropper bottles perfectly acceptable and have had no problems as yet.

Out of 3 euro droppers, I have issues only with the Domination bottle. 2/3, never a problem. And even with the Dom bottle, it's only occasional.

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05-07-2015 3:31 PM

(05-07-2015 1:43 PM)theLaw Wrote:  Hey Mark,

Have you ever seen a mix that was powerful enough to work reagardless of congruence? This, unfortunately, appears to be the "grail" some are looking for w/mones.

Thanks! Smile
The self-effects of mixes can assist with congruence, but nothing I've seen will do all the work for you. Not all mixes require congruence, however. I find that this is only the case with alpha mixes (meaning -Androsterone-based mixes), but even then, there's room to maneuver in most cases. No one specific set of behaviors is required - rather, the need for congruence only exists in a general sense. This isn't always the case, as it appears not to be with Bad Wolf, but I can say in the cases of Wolf, APi, and A314 Rev32, there most certainly is a generous amount of room to maneuver. Adding specific single molecules to "steer" the mix can change this "congruence boundary," widening it, narrowing it, and, at least in theory, changing its character entirely. A314 on its own is hardly believable on someone my age (19). However, if I were to add, say, MX351 to that, a combination of P74, TAA, and Beta -nol, I could easily pull off the mix at my age. XSR37 is something else I've recently found to be excellent for buffering -Androsterone-based mixes, not to mention my previous favorite, Epiandrosterone, and the much-loved (by me, at least) OdysseyXS. With proper buffering, I can be far less serious without sacrificing the alpha vibe of the mix, and through the self-effects, I'm given freedom from the normally restrictive seriousness of alpha mixes. With Odyssey, I can even act beta in some sense (overly talkative, party guy type of vibe) and still come off as alpha despite this. So yes, despite what Mark says, congruence doesn't have to be as restrictive as the mix being used. As for Bad Wolf? I doubt any number of molecules or (simple) mixes could loosen that one up - as I said before, not my type of mix! I hate mixes that force one to act a certain way or else punish the user for approaching a situation differently than the mix demands. Better to enable than to force. One's pheromone signature should open up opportunities and enable as many ways to approach a situation as possible. Bad Wolf just doesn't sound that good from a versatility perspective, but it's the perfect example of a mix that demands congruence. AV is as well, to a lesser extent.
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05-07-2015 3:40 PM

(05-06-2015 7:03 PM)kimosabe Wrote:  ...
Of interest to note is that our recently banhammered Alpha360 is from Indonesia. From experience, an extremely strong none-product may work negatively for this demographic unless it is VERY well buffered. Point - know your target demographic AND psychographic.
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Oh that nice, I even can't figure where he come from. I can only find
(03-16-2015 1:33 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  ...
I'm 24, living in a remote island where weather is humid and hot as a sauna.
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Yeah I agreed with Kimo,
Sexual tension from Androstenone may not work here.
I had a experience when tried flirt to my friend, she clearly noted me "I am not accustomed to this kind of" and changed topic.
Most of them are interested with comfort first (that mean Androstadienone ) and its a different story if applied at bar or club.
More complex is the woman on different part of country like dewata island is much friendlier.

thats just my two cents
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05-07-2015 7:18 PM

If my target is someone older than me, MILF. She is.more establish in her career and finances than me. Which mones should I use?

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05-08-2015 12:36 AM

(05-07-2015 7:18 PM)haggy Wrote:  If my target is someone older than me, MILF. She is.more establish in her career and finances than me. Which mones should I use?

If I can remember there is user report LIIK version 2 hit older women
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