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Worst night ever with Sob oil but great self effect
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RE: Worst night ever with Sob oil but great self effect
05-04-2015 11:20 AM

(05-04-2015 10:38 AM)Snoopyace Wrote:  Just my two cents, if you haven't done so already, contact Steve directly. I know you can contact him through the website. Every pheromone vendor is very busy and he might not have seen the thread on that board.

Also, as far as cover scents go, I've noticed with just about every phero product I've tried (as well as my own homemade ones), when I add a scent to the Pheromones it usually takes a few weeks for the scent and the phero blend to really mix well. Until everything gets to know each other, the scent hardly ever lasts very long and is usually very faint. This process takes longer for oils than sprays and for me, it usually takes a few weeks before I can REALLY make the scent stick.

Having said all that, sometimes a product just doesn't work as well with our chemistry. I hope that Steve is able to help with your issues.

The product took 33 days to come where I live so I guess by that time the scent would have stick to the oil properly. As a comparison I have Bad Wolf and I didn't smell any bad odor from it, A314 was the same. Bad wolf scent last all day for me, I can smell it even with only one drop. Wolf scent is very noticeable too. PXS scent (FXS and nobility) is a joke compared to LAL and I'm only talking about strength.

I don't think it's about chemistry here, it's the product that is not scented properly. Also I have some self effect from Sob so I guess it would work if it was scented properly. The strong hit I saw from a girl also tells me that the product work but the scent certainly repulsed her even if she was horny.

I will certainly contact Steve about it if I didn't get any answer on his forum.

S= sample, O=oil
LAL: BW, AV S , Wolf S, Max T
PXS: APi O, Sob O, Connection, Xist OS, Bliss S, Evolve S, Love Boat S, Taboo OS, Cohesion S
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RE: Worst night ever with Sob oil but great self effect
05-04-2015 11:30 AM

(05-04-2015 10:49 AM)MeltingAsh Wrote:  I have sob unscented and ascend as well. Both have the strong cops smell. I also have Androstadienone and evolve in sultan oud. It covers very well. Unsure if it would be enough for the cops though. Try the return or get an oil oud to try and cover. The smell issue with xs cops is well known in here especially with fxs. Testing and trying are the only real ways to really learn though. Good luck

If FXS or Nobility doesn't cover well the cops smell then it shouldn't be sold with Sob. The fact that it's sold as a consumer product with the different scent should make it noob proof unless the guy is stupid.

The fact that the smell issue with xs cops is well known make it even worst because it's not resolved yet.

Testing and trying is cool when you live in the US because you can return the product for cheap but where I live it's not that easy. Especially when it took 33 days for my order to get there.

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LAL: BW, AV S , Wolf S, Max T
PXS: APi O, Sob O, Connection, Xist OS, Bliss S, Evolve S, Love Boat S, Taboo OS, Cohesion S
Androtics: not worth mentioning
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05-04-2015 11:48 AM

(05-04-2015 10:44 AM)haggy Wrote:  Anyone knows if the cops smell is stronger than the DP one?

Only in reading, seems less in DP

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XS: SOB, Ascend, Xist and Taboo, Evolve Oil & A1 (oil), API & Bliss
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Androtics Direct: TAC, TAA, MX297, MX353, P134, A314 Royale
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05-04-2015 11:53 AM

(05-04-2015 11:30 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  If FXS or Nobility doesn't cover well the cops smell then it shouldn't be sold with Sob. The fact that it's sold as a consumer product with the different scent should make it noob proof unless the guy is stupid.

The fact that the smell issue with xs cops is well known make it even worst because it's not resolved yet.

Testing and trying is cool when you live in the US because you can return the product for cheap but where I live it's not that easy. Especially when it took 33 days for my order to get there.

I am outside of US but either way still don't return or have not yet. I try other ways to make it work. In some cases it is probably better to just return though. Think I am just too lazy which is probably why all the vendors have the return policy for lazy folk like me.

LAL: SXD-9, AV, Primitive, Wolf (Empty), Primitive, Voodoo,Nude Alpha Gel: Samples: OD, BW & Nude Alpha
XS: SOB, Ascend, Xist and Taboo, Evolve Oil & A1 (oil), API & Bliss
AD: Glace, L2K v1
Androtics Direct: TAC, TAA, MX297, MX353, P134, A314 Royale
AT: GOA, Captain
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Love Scent: NNPA
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RE: Worst night ever with Sob oil but great self effect
05-04-2015 12:05 PM

I notice a lot of guys don't return their product even it doesn't work, they just resell it to someone else. It's no wonder that even the worst vendor like ADtics can offer such a great return policy.

I found an easier rode though, I just use paypal to get my money back if the product doesn't live up to it's expectation or advertisement. With paypal you don't need to return your product, I did that with ADtics and I may do it with PXS too if I think they deserve it. Anyway they are just going to trash the product. I still have my AD product but I don't use it anymore because I can't trust ADtics anymore due to their lies.

Like I said before to me the most important thing is trust, if I can't trust a vendor then I won't buy his product even if they work. Every vendor can do some mistake, they are human but constant lie and over hype I won't tolerate.

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LAL: BW, AV S , Wolf S, Max T
PXS: APi O, Sob O, Connection, Xist OS, Bliss S, Evolve S, Love Boat S, Taboo OS, Cohesion S
Androtics: not worth mentioning
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05-04-2015 12:56 PM

(05-04-2015 12:05 PM)Alpha360 Wrote:  I found an easier rode though, I just use paypal to get my money back if the product doesn't live up to it's expectation or advertisement. With paypal you don't need to return your product, I did that with ADtics and I may do it with PXS too if I think they deserve it.

Wow. That single statement speaks volumes about your character.
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RE: Worst night ever with Sob oil but great self effect
05-04-2015 1:08 PM

Could you explain me why? As customer I expect the truth about what I buy. What the product is able to do and if it's safe, tested, etc.
I have no remorse to get my money back if a product isn't working when it should. If it's only one product that's ok, but if it's a lot of them and there is some constant lie about what the different products is then I think it's perfectly ok to get your money back that way.

Why would paypal exist otherwise? Do you think paypal is use only by people who have a character similar to mine? To me Androtics perfectly deserve that treatment. As for PXS I'm still thinking about it.

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LAL: BW, AV S , Wolf S, Max T
PXS: APi O, Sob O, Connection, Xist OS, Bliss S, Evolve S, Love Boat S, Taboo OS, Cohesion S
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05-04-2015 1:15 PM

Try a spray of Tom Ford Black Orchid

It will cover all smell and you still get to keep the difiusion of the nobilitie smell

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05-04-2015 1:22 PM

Joris06

I've heard about Tom Ford Black Orchid, I've heard it's a great scent? Also, am I right in thinking its unisex?


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05-04-2015 1:23 PM

(05-04-2015 12:56 PM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  Wow. That single statement speaks volumes about your character.


I 2nd this statement.

Alpha, perhaps mones aren't for you, if you're that sensitive to the odor.

Also, I've worn SOB extensively in FXS scent and unscented (oil and spray) with no problem. In fact, I have received compliments again and again with the FXS scent. The only time I really noticed cops was with Desire Me oil, but I fully expected that in an unscented product.

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