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Turn any pheromone product into "Voodoo"
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01-10-2019 6:24 AM

(01-10-2019 6:14 AM)LoveInSpain Wrote:  To me, Voodoo isn't the best stand alone mix, but in a combo with BW and Cops, it's pure magic. It's one of the few products that I would always want to keep in stock.

About the "witchy shit", although I respect the views and enthusiasm of other members, IMO whether it's Voodoo water, Hoodoo oil or Santa's jiz, the effects of such enhancements are placebo based. I have no idea if my Voodoo is with or without.

Do you have reports of that combo in your journal LoveInSpain?

They've done studies you know...60% of the time, it works every time
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01-10-2019 7:16 AM

(01-10-2019 6:24 AM)stefdude Wrote:  Do you have reports of that combo in your journal LoveInSpain?
My journal is somewhat neglected, unfortunately. But I believe that I've posted somewhere in the Voodoo and BW combo threads.
I've also had good results (lays) with BW + NA + Voodoo + Tmax150, ratio 11+usual smear of Tmax.
Though I would say that I can't use Voodoo in any form more than twice a week. It ends up draining my energy and messing with my sleep.

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01-10-2019 2:33 PM

(01-10-2019 4:49 AM)stefdude Wrote:  I got meh results from Voodoo too but the scent of it had the strongest imprint out of every other scent, pheromone or not and I don't think it was the best scent compared to other products, but I miss it in a very strange, imprinted way.I think the pheromones or plant extracts used in Voodoo do a good job of putting you in a somewhat trance state and imprinting through scent.I really believe that if I put Voodoo right now I will become instantly euphoric, in a dumb dreamy way.
The scent of the 2nd batch changed a bit, not sure what's the current scent.
I think I figured out why you feel that. It is all about the plants used. If you have the right herbs, you will find out that they are in fact magickal. From the herb book I have from Catherine, the owner of Lucky Mojo. She wrote that plants such as Angelica, Calamus, are all known as love herbs, however, they can be deployed in a certain unusual way for domination and control purposes, such as a domination love spell where one member of the relationship has all the authority.

I still have my bottle of Voodoo, but it was unscented and I regret of ordering it that way. So here is a tip, buy it scented in the original Voodoo scent, the scent itself is very important, not for sniffing, but for the actual plants used to make that scent, which adds power to the overall usefulness of Voodoo.


(01-10-2019 6:14 AM)LoveInSpain Wrote:  About the "witchy shit", although I respect the views and enthusiasm of other members, IMO whether it's Voodoo water, Hoodoo oil or Santa's jiz, the effects of such enhancements are placebo based. I have no idea if my Voodoo is with or without.

I understand that you think Hoodoo oils effects are placebo based, but if you tried Lucky Mojo's stuff, perhaps your view MIGHT change, I have seen the stuff work when I merely only touched them, without actually using them.

People thought the same thing with pheromones but then this forum won't exist if people still all believes that.
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01-10-2019 3:18 PM

(01-10-2019 2:33 PM)masterfu678 Wrote:  I understand that you think Hoodoo oils effects are placebo based, but if you tried Lucky Mojo's stuff, perhaps your view MIGHT change, I have seen the stuff work when I merely only touched them, without actually using them.

People thought the same thing with pheromones but then this forum won't exist if people still all believes that.

Not that this is anything new; but a large part of how magick, and pheromones by proxy, work is through faith. Even the all mighty science falls flat when resolutely faced with total and utter disbelief. I've seen loved ones hang on in the face of the final stages of cancer for just one more Christmas despite all science stating otherwise; and likewise seen them surrender to the darkness despite science having pumped cures into their bodies.

On the opposite end of the spectrum I've seen folks recover from debilitating illnesses and major damage to their bodies due to 'folk cures', 'magick', and just the power of belief.

There is, indeed, more on heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophies; but none of them will ever work if we do not place our faith and belief into them.

In short, if you doubt that pheromones or Hoodoo will work for you, then it most definitely will not.

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01-10-2019 5:03 PM

(01-10-2019 3:18 PM)Gladen Wrote:  Not that this is anything new; but a large part of how magick, and pheromones by proxy, work is through faith. Even the all mighty science falls flat when resolutely faced with total and utter disbelief. I've seen loved ones hang on in the face of the final stages of cancer for just one more Christmas despite all science stating otherwise; and likewise seen them surrender to the darkness despite science having pumped cures into their bodies.

On the opposite end of the spectrum I've seen folks recover from debilitating illnesses and major damage to their bodies due to 'folk cures', 'magick', and just the power of belief.

There is, indeed, more on heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophies; but none of them will ever work if we do not place our faith and belief into them.

In short, if you doubt that pheromones or Hoodoo will work for you, then it most definitely will not.
There's a huge division line between pheromones and Hoodoo. Mones are based upon biological science. Hoodoo is not. Science is based upon doubting a theory until it can be deemed probable or fully proven. Faith can only be valid up to a certain point. As much as you believe that when you drop a rock it will fall upwards, upon dropping it, you will only witness gravity.
And yes, humans and many other animals are capable of remarkable accomplishments. Are those based on faith, hope, necessity, determination, instinct or a combination of all?
I hope that I don't sound pessimistic. But I fully admit that am sceptical.

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01-10-2019 5:24 PM

(01-10-2019 5:03 PM)LoveInSpain Wrote:  There's a huge division line between pheromones and Hoodoo. Mones are based upon biological science. Hoodoo is not. Science is based upon doubting a theory until it can be deemed probable or fully proven. Faith can only be valid up to a certain point. As much as you believe that when you drop a rock it will fall upwards, upon dropping it, you will only witness gravity.
And yes, humans and many other animals are capable of remarkable accomplishments. Are those based on faith, hope, necessity, determination, instinct or a combination of all?
I hope that I don't sound pessimistic. But I fully admit that am sceptical.
Well said. One should always be skeptical.

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01-10-2019 6:20 PM

(01-10-2019 3:18 PM)Gladen Wrote:  Not that this is anything new; but a large part of how magick, and pheromones by proxy, work is through faith. Even the all mighty science falls flat when resolutely faced with total and utter disbelief. I've seen loved ones hang on in the face of the final stages of cancer for just one more Christmas despite all science stating otherwise; and likewise seen them surrender to the darkness despite science having pumped cures into their bodies.

On the opposite end of the spectrum I've seen folks recover from debilitating illnesses and major damage to their bodies due to 'folk cures', 'magick', and just the power of belief.

There is, indeed, more on heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophies; but none of them will ever work if we do not place our faith and belief into them.

In short, if you doubt that pheromones or Hoodoo will work for you, then it most definitely will not.

Very true.

Now we have to wait until the day when magick and spirituality is proved by science. It is possible. Every time I join a discussion about magick, spirituality, Astrology etc, there will be that at least one person that mentions the Quantum Theory. Somehow the Quantum Theory and proving spirituality with science is connected, but we don't know how yet.

Even on Lucky Mojo's forum, a female member told me that pheromone and magick are actually similar and she dump the Hoodoo oils into her pheromones, her username is "ScorpioKate", don't know if she is here. She told me that both can affect the psych of a person in some way, pheromone is more of a closed range (can be 1 mile but that is still closed range), and magick can be done remotely. Meaning that I can target a female that I like and light some candles with a spell and she will come to me to my home without me leaving the home at all, and that could different states or different country. All I need is that person's name written on a piece of paper, as this person's name is a very powerful proxy to affect that person, even without physically meeting them.

This again, somehow made me believe that Quantum Theory can be used to explain why it can be done this way, but it is just not yet time for that kind of scientific breakthrough yet.
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01-11-2019 9:12 AM

(01-10-2019 6:20 PM)masterfu678 Wrote:  Now we have to wait until the day when magick and spirituality is proved by science. It is possible. Every time I join a discussion about magick, spirituality, Astrology etc, there will be that at least one person that mentions the Quantum Theory. Somehow the Quantum Theory and proving spirituality with science is connected, but we don't know how yet.

Perhaps, but that was not what I was attempting to intimate. While I do have some superficial understanding that there is something beyond the physicality of pure science, the metaphysical if you will, I am far too much of a clod to have any keening of the ins and outs of such things.

What I was inferring is that while any practice of magick involves the transmutation of focused energies, the underlying concoctions in such things as oils, salves, potions, etc tend to involve substances that have real, replicatable effects. A prime example of this is the European, African, and Neo Pagan potions to reduce pain, nausea, and inflammation. While the ingredients are well known and documented, and have been around for a thousand or more years, several of the ingredients (in a more pure and extracted form) are in our modern Aspirin (specifically the active substance found in White Willow bark).

My clumsily alluded point was that magickal concoctions do, indeed, have some real life active ingredients that have been known, for multiple generations, to have true effects. Very similar to pheromones in this way, they are not totally quantified and the scientific world is split regarding views (and even supporting data) on whether or not they work, and to what extent if they do.

My main point was, that akin to pheromones, if you do not believe that they will work, then they will not. To further my Aspirin analogy, if one takes some for aches and pains but they've convinced themselves that it will do nothing for the pain; one will still hurt.

While there is supporting ideology that points to the Quantum levels of things showing that reality is entirely subjective, with no objectivity, and that our universe is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one, I had no intentions of derailing the thread by stating that Schrodinger's Cat is always dead, alive, any state in between, as well as a chocolate milkshake with a cherry on top, in all locations at once, and is both a plasma and a particle; and the 'concrete' data that we observe depends entirely on our point of reference and the state we are attempting to glean from our observations.

Whether or not one believes in the view that a human can act as a focusing lens to imbue any item, or reality in general, with energies fixated to achieving a certain end, while hinted to be supported by Quantum reality, is still mostly unproven (disregarding the controversial advances of Daryl Bem and others); but many things that science relies upon are likewise unproven.

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