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Study: "Chanel No 22 raises testosterone levels in men; Axe has same effect on women"
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Study: "Chanel No 22 raises testosterone levels in men; Axe has same effect on women"
08-07-2017 2:19 PM

An interesting study...

The women's testosterone level skyrocketed after smelling the muscone.

They didn't actually use Chanel or Axe in the study, they used "rose, floral" and "muscone, a mixture of compounds including muscone 3-methyl-cyclopentadecalacton."

Would love to figure out exactly what they used.

Link to the article:

http://www.ergo-log.com/chanel22test.html

Link to the full study here:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication...thy_adults
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08-09-2017 6:17 AM

(08-07-2017 2:19 PM)P4yn3 Wrote:  An interesting study...

The women's testosterone level skyrocketed after smelling the muscone.

They didn't actually use Chanel or Axe in the study, they used "rose, floral" and "muscone, a mixture of compounds including muscone 3-methyl-cyclopentadecalacton."

Would love to figure out exactly what they used.

Link to the article:

http://www.ergo-log.com/chanel22test.html

Link to the full study here:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication...thy_adults


Nice find. I repped you. Good job!

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08-09-2017 9:34 AM

"Musk is similar to the testosterone metabolite and pheromone androstenol [structural formula shown here]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celery

Go down to the supermarket and buy a blender with some celery eat the whole celery then go to a club without conditioning. Your welcome.............
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08-09-2017 8:59 PM

(08-09-2017 6:17 AM)Paradox Wrote:  Nice find. I repped you. Good job!

Thanks, thinking of moving this to the Men's section to get more feedback. Any mods object to that?

There has to be someone who has used straight muscone on the forums.
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08-10-2017 6:58 AM

(08-09-2017 8:59 PM)P4yn3 Wrote:  Thanks, thinking of moving this to the Men's section to get more feedback. Any mods object to that?

First of all, you do not have the ability to move threads between forums, and second, yes I do object: Threads should be placed in the forum most appropriate to the discussion, not in the forum that's likely to generate the most attention.

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08-10-2017 1:07 PM

(08-07-2017 2:19 PM)P4yn3 Wrote:  An interesting study...

The women's testosterone level skyrocketed after smelling the muscone.

They didn't actually use Chanel or Axe in the study, they used "rose, floral" and "muscone, a mixture of compounds including muscone 3-methyl-cyclopentadecalacton."

Would love to figure out exactly what they used.

Link to the article:

http://www.ergo-log.com/chanel22test.html

Link to the full study here:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication...thy_adults


Why not simply read the publication then?

"Rose" is citronellol, geraniol and nerol

"floral" is b-phenylethylalcohol, linalool and methyl dihydrojasmonate - which is hedione


All odorants decreased Cortisol in both men and women.
Musk increased T in females, decreased it in males.
Floral increased T in males, decreased it in females
Rose decreased T im women


I can't see many similarities between muscone and androstenol in strucure or odour. What's more alpha-androstenol is not a good indicator of a healthy androgen-metablism, probably even to the contrary
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08-10-2017 1:54 PM

(08-10-2017 1:07 PM)GoergeFocky Wrote:  Why not simply read the publication then?

"Rose" is citronellol, geraniol and nerol

"floral" is b-phenylethylalcohol, linalool and methyl dihydrojasmonate - which is hedione


All odorants decreased Cortisol in both men and women.
Musk increased T in females, decreased it in males.
Floral increased T in males, decreased it in females
Rose decreased T im women


I can't see many similarities between muscone and androstenol in strucure or odour. What's more alpha-androstenol is not a good indicator of a healthy androgen-metablism, probably even to the contrary

I did read the publication. I was referring to the exact type of muscone that they used. There are many differing types depending on the vendor. Just because something is labeled a certain name does not mean that is the exact one used. A lot of vendors mix and match or use some outsourced garbage from a subcontractor.

The article mentions Kanebo Cosmetics but I haven't found a link to their muscone. I'll be ordering muscone, l-muscone and musk ketone to try and find the most effective one.
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08-11-2017 4:40 AM

I see. I their way of saying "muscone, a mixture of compounds including muscone 3-methyl-cyclopentadecalacton." indictaes simply that they used the racemic form instead of the pure l-muscone. It's cheaper and more widely in use in perfumery and cosmetics.
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07-22-2018 1:06 PM

How can we take advantage of this finding? using more floral scented colognes? lol, please forgive my ignorance.
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07-22-2018 3:22 PM

While interesting, I wouldn't place it first in terms of raising one's testosterone; simply do a search of different threads for raising one's test. Other measures rapidly and reliably do it much better than a perfume.
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