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Pheromone Concentrates & Manufacturing Ingredients
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Post: #21
RE: Pheromone Concentrates & Manufacturing Ingredients
09-24-2011 8:13 AM

Hey Alpha

I hope that when you offer these verity of options, the prices of the concentrates won't increase. I have a lot in my wish list to try (all of them being single molecules from your company), but so little money. I'm actually saving some on the side to get one or two of your concentrates(androsterone and Pregnenolone) at 500ml size by next month the latest.

I will report on glacé in a few

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09-24-2011 10:37 AM

Quote:I hope that when you offer these verity of options, the prices of the concentrates won't increase.

No the prices are actully going to decrease on the concentrates while all of this is being set up.
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Post: #23
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09-24-2011 10:49 AM

So I've been thinking on this all morning.. If I don't publish this soon my head is going to explode...

My idea is to create two products for each single molecule: A dropper type and a spray type.


Dropper type:

see example http://alpha-dream.3dcartstores.com/Andr...0-151.html to understand what I'm talking about in the following paragraphs..

The current lowest option is 10mg/10mL at $45. At 10mg/10mL this equates to 50 mcg per drop, and was not intended to be applied directly, but rather for mixing into a formula with the convenience of 1 mL = 1 mg. So the attempt here is to make this into a user-friendly and personal-use-oriented product.

The idea I have is to offer options in the drop-down box (click link above to visualize), before the 10mg/10mL option. Under "Choose options and quantity" - the "size" drop down box will have these new choices before the 10mL option.

These products will be based upon a 10mL dropper bottle with 400 drops per bottle:

1 mcg / drop (400 mcg per 10mL) for $12
2.5 mcg / drop (1 mg per 10mL) for $17
5 mcg / drop (2 mg per 10mL) for $21
10 mcg / drop (4 mg per 10mL) for $25
20 mcg / drop (8 mg per 10mL) for $31
Past this it will stay locked at 1mg/mL from 10ml to 500 mL.

The base will be 90% EtOH (ethyl alcohol), 10% DPG

Spray Type:

Togos: 5 mL bottle with sprayer cap (55 micro liters / spray), which dispenses 90 sprays per bottle. This is the same bottle we send out samples in which many of you like.

1 mcg per spray (90 mcg per 5 mL) $13
5 mcg per spray (450 mcg per 5 mL) $16
10 mcg per spray (900 mcg per 5 mL) $19
20 mcg per spray (1.8 mg per 5 mL) $22
50 mcg per spray (4.5 mg per 5 mL) $26
100 mcg per spray (9 mg per 5 mL) $31


Full sized: 30 mL bottle with sprayer cap (133 micro liters / spray), which dispenses 225 sprays per bottle.

1 mcg per spray (225 mcg per 30 mL) $16
2.5 mcg per spray (560 mcg per 30 mL) $19
5 mcg per spray (1125 mcg per 30 mL) $25
10 mcg per spray (2.25 mg per 30 mL) $31
20 mcg per spray (4.5 mg per 30 mL) $45
50 mcg per spray (11.25 mg per 30 mL) $50
100 mcg per spray (22.5 mg per 30 mL) $65

These will be supplied in 90% EtOH, 10% DPG (same as experimones).

NO CHARGE FOR UNSCENTED!

We will look into offering a silicone option for the base (for dropper type and spray type) in the near future after we launch this.

These prices will be for all single molecules (excluding THDOC which will have a different pricing structure).

These updates will be available for: Androstadienone, Androstenone, Estratetraenol, alpha-Androstenol, beta-Androstenol, *beta-AndrostAnol (Molecule "A"), AndrostAnone (coming very soon), alpha-THDOC, beta-THDOC, Androsterone, Epiandrosterone, and DHEAS.

This is going to take about a week or two to prepare for and set-up.

Any thoughts, suggestions, and recommendations with this will be greatly appreciated from everyone. I'm open minded about this and would like to hear what all of you think, and what you want.

Thanks guys,

~ chris
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Post: #24
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09-24-2011 11:20 AM

Awesome! I think this will prompt a lot more people to test single molecules (and Alpha Dream products!)
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09-24-2011 12:13 PM

(09-24-2011 11:20 AM)dbot Wrote:  Awesome! I think this will prompt a lot more people to test single molecules (and Alpha Dream products!)

i think the same ...

great idea from Chris !

there MUST happen something to make more people play around with single molecules !!!!!!!

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Post: #26
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09-24-2011 12:26 PM

There are already a few molecules I'm looking forward to getting sprayers of -- Androstanone, androstanol, TH-doc... This is golden age stuff.

Should help me get motivated to get through testing the stuff I've got, too Smile

Chris, you may want to consider offering some of the molecules that are available for DIY as well, since they're cheap, there's built-in interest from existing reports, and many people just don't want to deal with rolling their own. E.g. DHEA, Neno, melatonin, d3...

Oh, and one off-topic thing while I'm thinking of it: there are still 2 blind molecules to be revealed ;)
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Post: #27
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09-25-2011 4:08 AM

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  • Proper labels for the bottles indicating the type of product and all the related information
  • The more options u have the more work on ur side, but its great as of now !!! Gud luck.
  • 50ml 100ml option for Full bottles for actual formulas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • The price difference between 5ml and 30ml is not much :-s ?

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09-25-2011 4:48 AM

(09-25-2011 4:08 AM)ohhmygod Wrote:  Proper labels for the bottles indicating the type of product and all the related information

I prefer the classy, stealthy Alpha Dream labels/bottles over the bottles of any other company.

(09-25-2011 4:08 AM)ohhmygod Wrote:  50ml 100ml option for Full bottles for actual formulas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can buy two or three of the 36ml bottles instead P

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09-25-2011 4:50 AM

Quote:I prefer the classy, stealthy Alpha Dream labels/bottles over the bottles of any other company.

Haha, but then u will get confused !!! Because later on u wont know which one is that !!! and what is the concentration.

Quote:You can buy two or three of the 36ml bottles instead P
Usually bigger means it can be offered cheaper (less labour)

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09-25-2011 4:56 AM

Quote:Haha, but then u will get confused !!! Because later on u wont know which one is that !!! and what is the concentration.
You mean the labels for the concentrates? I got to agree, accurate labels are always nice.

Quote:Usually bigger means it can be offered cheaper (less labour)
Yea. Though then Alpha Dream would have to stock different bottle sizes separately and what happens if there is a new batch and the 100ml bottles aren't all sold yet? Do you throw the old batch away? IDK if it would be cheaper. Doesn't seem like any other phero company offers different bottle sizes.
Some offer different strengths/concentrations, though.

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