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RE: Oxytocin |
06-11-2013 2:00 PM
(06-11-2013 12:08 AM)wiserd Wrote: Oxytocin as p79. Interesting...
They do seem very similar. I might have gotten more of a Testosterone drop with oxytocin, but otherwise they feel just the same. Maybe it was a matter of dose...
don't forget the 2 hour mark thing that the paper described, that must be a time delay sort of reaction that changes a secondary internal hormone(s) level over the 2 hour timespan. They went from more giving in the 30min-2hour time, then more selfish after the 2hours mark.
The difference in social behavior due to Oxytocin (OT) exposure is significant because these monkeys normally DON'T SHARE!
Quote:Compared with some other nonhuman primates, social behavior
of rhesus monkeys is primarily characterized by competition and aggression, and shows very weak, if any, inclination toward cooperation.
Seems some monkeys are more giving than others, because they had real mommys. Seems like hormone levels throughout life can be learned and sometimes maintained at higher levels due to previous environmental variables like a real monkey mommy or breast milk hormone exposure.
Quote:In a prior study, different levels of endogenous OT were reported in more socially affiliative mother-reared compared with more socially agnostic nursery-reared macaques(monkeys).
I need to check out the references to human exposure to OT.
Quote:These findings are consistent with contextdependent
Vasopressin, what is it, and if it is so close to oxytocin, is it of putative pheromone interest?
effects of OT on human social behavior (16, 17, 39)
(for a review of human social processing, see ref. 40), implying
similar neural mechanisms.
16. De Dreu CK, et al. (2010) The neuropeptide oxytocin regulates parochial altruism in intergroup conflict among humans. Science 328:1408–1411.
17. De Dreu CK, Greer LL, Van Kleef GA, Shalvi S, Handgraaf MJ (2011) Oxytocin promotes human ethnocentrism. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 108:1262–1266.
39. Bartz JA, Zaki J, Bolger N, Ochsner KN (2011) Social effects of oxytocin in humans: Context and person matter. Trends Cogn Sci 15:301–309.
40. Fehr E, Fischbacher U (2003) The nature of human altruism. Nature 425:785–791.
Autism? ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder)??? Who was Tacitus?????
humans, intranasal delivery of a similar peptide, vasopressin (differing by only
two amino acids), increases its concentration in the CSF after 10 min, and elevated
vasopressin levels are maintained for more than 80 min after administration
35. Born J, et al. (2002) Sniffing neuropeptides: A transnasal approach to the human brain. Nat Neurosci 5:514–516.
21. Insel TR (2010) The challenge of translation in social neuroscience: A review of oxytocin, vasopressin, and affiliative behavior. Neuron 65:768–779.
22. Meyer-Lindenberg A, Domes G, Kirsch P, Heinrichs M (2011) Oxytocin and vasopressin in the human brain: Social neuropeptides for translational medicine. Nat Rev Neurosci 12:524–538.
I remember reading a post by Tacitus at AndDir's Forum where Tacitus said a certain molecule or mix removed ASD effects, and I think it was the [A314+P79+P83+Alpha Androstenol Tacitus ASD mix]
?, he also mentioned Anal Sex in his post and at the time I didn't know what ASD was so I thought the A&S in ASD was Anal Sex, but it isn't as I later found out, it has to do with Autism, and maybe Asperger's (haha Asperger's sounds funny, cacapoopoo). The references in the paper point to Oxytocin and it's effects on Autism
, Tacitus refered to mixes containing P79 & other putatives having an effect on Autism(ASD's).
Quote:Tacitus October 9th, 2006, 07:03 AM
Re: The good Putatives so far
Tacitus @ AndDir Forum ASD mention
Dunno exactly.... played around with P79 / P83 in a base of a -nol , a-Androsterone, and TAA .... the 79/83 combo has repeatedly led to passionate, greasy pig sex... women seem to lose all their ASD barriers with 79/83 ... they just... get... into... it...
Quote:Tacitus November 2nd, 2007, 09:49 AM
Re: Whats your most BRUTAL hit?
Female friend of mine and her current BF walked up to me shit faced drunk the both of them and demanded I go home with them for three way... was not going to happen ... they were so insistent I practically had to shove them into a cab and hold the door shut with my foot until it drove off... next time I saw them they were sort of mortified, in denial, acted as if it had never happened...
Personal Code Of Conduct: never have sex with someone who is drunk or high unless you know that person wouldn't have an issue being sexual stone cold sober... or, never underestimate the power of the ASD , especially in "well bred little angels" who want to try on their bad girl costume... I much prefer sluts who are fully conscious and at one with their slutness and have high self esteem and have integrated the erotocism with their total sense of self...
Quote:tacitus (December 16, 2006)
P79 + P83 with bright shiny mones in the background
Woooooo.... that was..... XXX rated.... I had two mixes, one was 50 Microgram P79 + 50 Microgram P83... the other was an A314, Alpha Androstenol , TAA love'n'happiness blend.... so I'm with this awesome somewhat older, intensely hot creature, and I give her a biggg whiff of the P79+P83 and she looks like she's about to spontaneously combust... then on went the love'n'happiness mixture.... alright... if you have tender sensibilities, stop reading NOW.... cover your eyes... this is the third time in rapid sucession that (three different, all unalike) have women have wanted, and passionately enjoyed.... ahem...... anal sex..... OK... there.... I said it... now, as.... cough... adults..... we all know that porno-grade sex potions are the fodder of the dumbest adolescent fantasies.... a more nuanced interpretation is that women (more that would freely admit it) do, in fact, have libidos that are as strong and (potentially) uninhibitedly raunchy as the typical horny, raunchy male.... however.... women are also subject to much heavier socialization about "good girl" versus "she devil" erotocism.... wherein she devil levels of desire may be perceived as socially destabilizing..... like, when a known she devil shows up on the scene, you notice how the Precious Pure Angels circle their wagons and freak out.... yeah... I thought so.... you know exactly what I'm talking about.... because the Precious Pure Angels know all too well what the menfolk are fantasizing when the She Devil is present... soooooo.... the girly girls learns the wisdom of shutting it down and covering it up.... oooooh yes, my husband and I.... on Sundays, after church.... after consulting our higher powers, lay down on white linens and whisper naughty things to each other.... so..... your humble Tacitus has concluded that, under the right circumstances, these troubling ASDs can be overridden and the She Devilcomes out to play..... unlike her Precious Pure Angel identity.... she is given to saying things like.... Dude, grease me up and f#$% me hard in the...... so wrong, so filthy, so real....
Quote:23. Andari E, et al. (2010) Promoting social behavior with oxytocin in high-functioning autism spectrum disorders. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 107:4389–4394.
24. Hollander E, et al. (2007) Oxytocin increases retention of social cognition in autism. Biol Psychiatry 61:498–503.
25. Baron-Cohen S, Leslie AM, Frith U (1985) Does the autistic child have a “theory of mind”? Cognition 21:37–46.
Does Reference #25 cite "BORAT"? (Sasha Baron-Cohen)
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