(11-09-2012 8:42 PM)terry0400-40 Wrote:  When wearing pheromones one should venture forth with a mindset of cool clear confident composure, watch the mind for idle chatter and then become centered because whatever is going to be will be and this is something that can not be rushed because everything appears as a vibrational force which is in turn influenced by other vibrational forces or particles of pure intelligence and these pure particles will not flow forth from a watchful chattering mind, it is only within the cool still quiet peace of the mindless void where the great directional force of pure intelligence is contained and directed, it is within this place that sits the truly great artist and creator, now that you have the picture all things will surely be opened up unto you . . . TAB . . .

If I understand your post correctly, you're saying using pheromones correctly requires a change of mind ? The way you're describing it reminds me a bit of Ross Jeffries speeches... My question is: if you're able to reach this kind of state of mind, how do you know it's not just your way of being that is working, and not the pheromones ?

Likely it is both

(11-10-2012 5:39 AM)Electric_Blue Wrote:  If I understand your post correctly, you're saying using pheromones correctly requires a change of mind ? The way you're describing it reminds me a bit of Ross Jeffries speeches... My question is: if you're able to reach this kind of state of mind, how do you know it's not just your way of being that is working, and not the pheromones ?

There is far more involved than just applying the pheromones and they are then dispersed into the atmosphere, the important part is how the pheromones are delivered to the TARGETS because the pheromones are certainly receptive to vibrations expressed by the wearer is what i am saying when i speak about pheromones and vibrational control of delivery, to simply this do consider that a persons own natural pheromone production is greatly influenced by their mental state, it is the unseen aspects of pheromone science that make up what does the most work and contributes most to the working of the pheromones...

The true pheromone artist uses these concentrated synthetic pheromones with wisdom and knowledge to their best advantage and taking possession of mind control and imagination with regard to the delivery and effects of the pheromones is an art that is continually improved upon to garner the ultimate success when using these substances.

The pheromones themselves are ultimately just vibrations as everything else is and everything is influenced by vibrations, and coming to an understanding of vibrational energy and how it works and how it may be controlled and influenced is also related to our pheromone delivery results.

How receptive a TARGET is going to be on receiving the gift of a pheromone signal depends upon the actual delivery method used in sending the pheromone gift, we are now talking about presentation which influences the mind set of those receiving the gift.

The pheromone artist sends their gift well presented attractive and free of the jagged edges of doubt and mind clutter, the gift is comprised of both the physical and spiritual ( unseen vibrations ) and how this is transmitted plays an important part in how it is in turn received and acted upon by the TARGETS and i say targets because there are many who will become influenced by the pheromone signals that the user is transmitting and these signals relate to the pheromones and also to the sender and then the signals come back again which make a continual communication process ongoing.

Therefore even though the pheromones are important it is more important the vibrational force contained within the pheromone user, because it is the ESSENCE of the wearer and the pheromone signals that is transmitted ....

Distances within the confines of FISHBOWL EARTH really mean nothing when it comes to the transmission of superfine vibrational frequencies irrespective of their transmission source.

Ok OK how many times has anyone ever seen a forum post WHERE the poster is proclaiming to have been receiving pheromone hits when they have been a long distance away from their receptive target OR " shit i am receiving hits and i am driving in my car"

I have frequently read these type of posts and i can well understand the how and why to it.

It is the fact that the smallest and fastest vibrational frequencies from within the pheromone structure can and do reach out faster and further than the more solid aspects of the pheromone sub atomic structure and thus the pheromone user is actually perceiving pheromone transmission results which are factual although seemingly impossible to the non informed recipient or critic ect . .

For me the pheromones are a fun thing and also a learning thing because they teach me and i in turn teach them because we work together and we also evolve together because what we have in common is that we are related to everything and being so we may relate to all things and all beings in that we here now are at this moment drawn together and may our combined forces of greatness spring forth and refresh the universe continually ok cheers 4 now TAB . . .

(11-09-2012 6:53 PM)Electric_Blue Wrote:  Another thing: at the end of the last days where I've been using OD, I get a kind of headache, not sure if it is related, but I was wondering, as I've read some of you got dizzy when they applied OD...

I felt dizzy for a few minutes after application during the first few days of using OD. The dizziness increased when I combined Androstadienone into the mix. However, this will subside with time when you get used to it. I think that this is what Garry meant that you will feel loopy for a few days. Others had the same experience too.

Try to start small with OD. As little as 1/2 pump and build from there until you fond your "sweet spot." Putting on 2 pumps early will indeed result in dizziness and discomfort as your body is not yet used to this strong formulation. Even now, there are times when I feel uncomfortable physically when wearing OD, especially if I just have a light breakfast (as opposed to a regular breakfast).

(11-11-2012 10:52 PM)Mars82 Wrote:  I felt dizzy for a few minutes after application during the first few days of using OD. The dizziness increased when I combined Androstadienone into the mix. However, this will subside with time when you get used to it. I think that this is what Garry meant that you will feel loopy for a few days. Others had the same experience too.

Try to start small with OD. As little as 1/2 pump and build from there until you fond your "sweet spot." Putting on 2 pumps early will indeed result in dizziness and discomfort as your body is not yet used to this strong formulation. Even now, there are times when I feel uncomfortable physically when wearing OD, especially if I just have a light breakfast (as opposed to a regular breakfast).

I started to reduce the amount of OD: I used 1 pump today, 1/2 pump on each side of my jaw and neck. This time I didn't drink any alcohol, and I put on the same clothes as last thursday, when I didn't get any more hits than the usual. Well to my surprise, I DID get a lot of hits today, I mean girls stopping by near me or sitting near me with no reason, or looking me in the eyes for more than 5-6 seconds, some of them even smiled at me...
I still don't know if I'm fantasizing all this. Yet what I'm sure now is, as Terry said, I also need to have the attitude that suits this pheromone signature. It's quite logical when you think about it: smell like an alpha male but look like a shy nerd? There's undoubtedly something fishy in this ^^
Another thing though, that I hadn't already figured out: I have to learn to deal with the new hits, I still suck at responding to them...

(11-14-2012 2:41 PM)Electric_Blue Wrote:  

Quote:Another thing though, that I hadn't already figured out: I have to learn to deal with the new hits, I still suck at responding to them...

Before the hit has materialized or as it is unfolding say to your self "what is so awesome about this now" and then have the part of you that is the observer step out and away from your body and take a look at the scene and yourself from a position of just above and behind your shoulder and watch how you respond to the hit situation from this position of being free from your programmed mind response....

(11-14-2012 2:41 PM)Electric_Blue Wrote:  I started to reduce the amount of OD: I used 1 pump today, 1/2 pump on each side of my jaw and neck. This time I didn't drink any alcohol, and I put on the same clothes as last thursday, when I didn't get any more hits than the usual. Well to my surprise, I DID get a lot of hits today, I mean girls stopping by near me or sitting near me with no reason, or looking me in the eyes for more than 5-6 seconds, some of them even smiled at me...
I still don't know if I'm fantasizing all this. Yet what I'm sure now is, as Terry said, I also need to have the attitude that suits this pheromone signature. It's quite logical when you think about it: smell like an alpha male but look like a shy nerd? There's undoubtedly something fishy in this ^^
Another thing though, that I hadn't already figured out: I have to learn to deal with the new hits, I still suck at responding to them...

There you go my friend. Hits are coming to you. I usually put the OD gel on my inside wrist, then spread it on my other wrist, then the sides, front and back of neck, then the forearms. This spreads out the mones all over the exposed parts of my body.

Don't worry about responding to them, practice makes perfect. I myself am still practicing.

Before the hit has materialized or as it is unfolding say to your self "what is so awesome about this now" and then have the part of you that is the observer step out and away from your body and take a look at the scene and yourself from a position of just above and behind your shoulder and watch how you respond to the hit situation from this position of being free from your programmed mind response....
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wwwoooowwwwww that is powerful. thank you!

(11-09-2012 8:42 PM)terry0400-40 Wrote:  When wearing pheromones one should venture forth with a mindset of cool clear confident composure, watch the mind for idle chatter and then become centered because whatever is going to be will be and this is something that can not be rushed because everything appears as a vibrational force which is in turn influenced by other vibrational forces or particles of pure intelligence and these pure particles will not flow forth from a watchful chattering mind, it is only within the cool still quiet peace of the mindless void where the great directional force of pure intelligence is contained and directed, it is within this place that sits the truly great artist and creator, now that you have the picture all things will surely be opened up unto you . . . TAB . . .

You are hitting me with some wisdom I always seem to forget! How do I remind myself of these things?

I must write this down!

I just wanted to add my own first experience using OD. I WILL SAY THIS IS THE MOST LEGIT MONE PRODUCT I HAVE EVER USED. I headed to a get together where I got to catch up with a few friends that I had not seen in years. I applied it with hypnotica social just because I figured it would work. I had no loopiness, but I did feel large and in charge, feeling pumped up, but laid back and totally in control at the same time. When we get in, we realized there were no single women. I am not the type to flirt with Aany friend's woman. However that didn't stop them from flirting with me. I was seriously feeling like the center of attention which i blame on the Hypnotica social. Everyone justis kept frickin talking to me, no matter where i went or if i already knew them. My friend's cousin had his woman with him, and while he was playing beer pong, I was keeping her company. I caught her looking at me so many times that I quit counting. well she finally tells me that she has a friend that likes "guys like me", shows me a picture (10 out of 10) of her and tries to give me her number. I played it cool and told her she can have mine instead because I don't take numbers from girls, just give mine out (this is not true but I was feeling super cocky). long story short, women fucking want your balls so bad when wearing this stuff that they will gladly throw their own friends at the situation if the have a man already. it could all be in my head, but I doubt it.