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Nude Alpha + Grail of Affection (NA + GOA)
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Nude Alpha + Grail of Affection (NA + GOA)
07-13-2018 10:49 PM

Would this combo be good for imprinting or would one be better off with straight dienone instead of GOA?

Has anybody tried this combo?
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07-14-2018 9:41 AM

(07-13-2018 10:49 PM)E J Wrote:  Would this combo be good for imprinting or would one be better off with straight dienone instead of GOA?

Has anybody tried this combo?

I have for a bit. GOA provides more of the “in the now” sweetness reaction but I recommend to combo with dienone for more of a comfort, crushy effect. It will definitely imprint better.

I empathize more drops of NA over the dienone to work on the subconscious and eventually lead your target to initiate contact later on. Also throw in a social to help in how you want to steer things in the conversation. I have found Glacé by Alpha Dream to be powerful yet subtle. Core by Apex Labs have worked well for some and OK for others.

A word of caution about GOA. It has been reported by forum members that prolong usage has been known to reduce libido, so think it through.
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RE: Nude Alpha + Grail of Affection (NA + GOA)
07-14-2018 7:33 PM

(07-14-2018 9:41 AM)Mischief Wrote:  I have for a bit. GOA provides more of the “in the now” sweetness reaction but I recommend to combo with dienone for more of a comfort, crushy effect. It will definitely imprint better.

I empathize more drops of NA over the dienone to work on the subconscious and eventually lead your target to initiate contact later on. Also throw in a social to help in how you want to steer things in the conversation. I have found Glacé by Alpha Dream to be powerful yet subtle. Core by Apex Labs have worked well for some and OK for others.

A word of caution about GOA. It has been reported by forum members that prolong usage has been known to reduce libido, so think it through.

To add on about sex drive: I am a younger man who gas a bit higher sex drive...or at the very least average (depending what average is considered these days). After 2-3 weeks of GoA testing (with a day or two combined with THU), I had no issues. Now, that is not to say that OS the same with every man, but it is noteworthy that some men have the issue and some men do not. I believe age may play an important role.
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11-18-2018 10:53 PM

Do you guys think a (NA + GOA + L2K) combo could be used to create something similar to as33156's falling in love combo (NA + Glace + Dienone)?

Would 2 drops GOA and 3 sprays L2K contain 50mcg dienone or more?

Also thinking adding XiSt 2 sprays.

Combo is for a target I am gonna be spending +10hrs every day for 3 days in a conference (lectures + social breaks).

I am the only one she knows who is going to that conference and we are pretty close friends (probably FZed but we flirt a little still), and she is the shy introvert type that doesnt like mixing with new people alot, so she will cling to me most of the time.
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11-18-2018 11:45 PM

(11-18-2018 10:53 PM)JoeJevarah Wrote:  Do you guys think a (NA + GOA + L2K) combo could be used to create something similar to as33156's falling in love combo (NA + Glace + Dienone)?

I think the L2K will conflict directly with the NA, and is pretty much unnecessary otherwise. You have enough social (see friendzone) going on already. Amplifying the sexual with NA and a bit of GOA would be enough to set the bomb off so long as there's one to be set off in the first place.

Personally i would go NA + New Pheromone Additive, theres a bit of dienone in the New Pheromone Additive already from what i've read, i think my experiences confirm, but this takes things way into sexual crush territory. You already have the comfort of familiarity, use the mones to build up sex now.
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RE: Nude Alpha + Grail of Affection (NA + GOA)
11-19-2018 3:38 AM

I don't have New Pheromone Additive, the ones I mentioned are the only ones I have.

Would 3 drops GOA contain 50+mcg of dienone?

If I buy something on top of those, it would be Glace NOS.

Also New Pheromone Additive would be too sexual for the setting of the conference, and I can always add more drops of NA to increase the sexual vibe.
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11-19-2018 5:40 AM

Mischief gives very good advice regarding GOA and NA.I can confirm the faster and more direct results from that combo but I can't confirm the comparison with NA+Androstadienone because I haven't used it for imprinting.I can say that NA+GOA draws attention quickly, attention that looked to me as deep and I'm saying this because it looks like it draws attention disproportionately from women in a relationship (boring or satisfying one-I don't know).I don't know why straight Androstadienone would provide more crushy effect than GOA but yeah it might be true.Mischief?Any thoughts on that?

Dosage was 2 drops NA+2 drops GOA.
Dosage for NA+Androstadienone imprinting was 1 drop NA+20mcg Androstadienone or 2 drops NA + 30-40mcg Androstadienone .

They've done studies you know...60% of the time, it works every time
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12-17-2018 1:59 PM

Interesting. I'd like to know more about na:goa as well. Waiting for my styles from apex to come in the mail. I read some cool things about it mixed with goa. Ascend with goa also caught my eyes as well.
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RE: Nude Alpha + Grail of Affection (NA + GOA)
12-18-2018 3:57 AM

I've done testing on both of these mixes for quite some time. For me personally i've seen more results using NA + Androstadienone (By LAL).

The Androstadienone by LAL is hands down the best Androstadienone i've ever used in terms of results and lack of self-effects.
Not to say that GOA isn't good because it is the second best Androstadienone that i've used but the price also reflects.
GOA and LAL Androstadienone give different vibes for me. LAL Androstadienone doesn't give that much of a crushy feeling like GOA but a deep connection feeling.
It also comes off more natural and definitely Geary wasn't joking when adding Androstadienone to NA.
This has got to be the best combo i've ever used in terms of seeing results with women.

I've worn NA + Androstadienone around alot of girls in closed environments cars mostly.
Most of the time in the car rides they would feel comfortable and completely spill their beans to me.
Wearing this combo around a girl a couple times almost guarantees that they will develop feelings for you.
Unless you act like a complete asshole or do things completely against the vibe that NA + Androstadienone creates.
I've had awkward moments that turned quite bad with this combo on as well.
Humans are very intelligent and powerful if they sense something is not right no pheromones in the world will change that.
Pheromones are only here to help highlight or enhance a social situation, but if driven wrong it can actually be worse then not wearing Pheromones.

I've noticed that while wearing Phero's if i make a situation awkward it becomes VERY AWKWARD. If i make a situation fun it becomes VERY FUN.
The difference in the effects of pheromones are only their to drive the situation towards the state you want.
For example NA + Androstadienone is what i would call a VERY DEEP CONNECTION state. When i wear NA + Androstadienone my aim is to create a very deep connection with the person.
NA + Androstadienone is their to help me create that state but i still have to do the socializing and work.
When i wear DP i want to create a VERY FLIRTATIOUS State. When i wear DP around women i want to act like a kid who's curious about sex.
When i wear AV i want to create that I'M THE CATCH VIBE, so i also need to play the game of being the catch.
So when i pick a combo to wear that day i'm thinking about who i'm meeting for the day and which state would suit the people i will be meeting most.


I also don't think GOA is purely Androstadienone there's probably other things in their that produces a certain effect that is not just Androstadienone .
So pairing it with NA might not come off as natural as using NA + Androstadienone , as there could be compoenents of NA in GOA we don't know about and pushes certain characteristics overboard.
I often feel like i give off a unbelievable vibe when i use NA + GOA like the girl is thinking this is not real.
Then again this is just my own personal experience and chemistry reaction so everyone might experience this differently.

I've honestly had the best results wearing GOA as a standalone. It really creates a very good crushy vibe adding anything else doesn't seem to add to it.
Actually draws the attention away from it.

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12-20-2018 1:01 AM

Well said !
I agree with almost everything You wrote.
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