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New L2K v1 2016
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RE: New L2K v1 2016
02-27-2016 11:32 PM

I emailed AD also and I will be testing this coming week also. Hooray
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RE: New L2K v1 2016
02-29-2016 8:52 PM

Has anyone noticed that AD is back to selling the 36 ml bottles again? I wonder if the have the extra none?

http://www.alpha-dream.com/L2K.php

It seems the change back to 36ml happened recently when this thread picked up steam and AD started sending the AM and L2K tester samples.

I, like others who bought the 50 mls, have missed the deadline to return of the Post H 50 ml bottles. Once formula issue is figured out, AD should send new 50 ml stuff to EVERYBODY who made such a purchase. I know things happen with the -none that were out of ADs control but as customers we still didn't receive the product we expected.

I know I purchased L2K v1 based on the reviews I read on L2kv1 - My Best Mix of 2012, I was expecting a similar formula post H.

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RE: New L2K v1 2016
02-29-2016 9:08 PM

(02-29-2016 8:52 PM)R.Keyz Wrote:  I, like others who bought the 50 mls, have missed the deadline to return of the Post H 50 ml bottles. Once formula issue is figured out, AD should send new 50 ml stuff to EVERYBODY who made such a purchase. I know things happen with the -none that were out of ADs control but as customers we still didn't receive the product we expected.

I certainly agree. From a customer's viewpoint, it's the right thing to do; and we should NOT have to ask. Just saying. Hi
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RE: New L2K v1 2016
02-29-2016 9:19 PM

(02-29-2016 8:52 PM)R.Keyz Wrote:  Has anyone noticed that AD is back to selling the 36 ml bottles again? I wonder if the have the extra none?

Have you contacted Chris or Amara? If they are selling the updated AM and L2k before the testers have even given feedback, they are short circuiting themselves here.... Why not wait for the testing to be complete?

I am a little baffled here...MORE drama? Wacko2

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RE: New L2K v1 2016
02-29-2016 10:26 PM

From an email from amara, she says that the new testing samples for LIIK will be sent out Tuesday. I really doubt that they are sending out a formula that they haven't been able to test much.
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03-01-2016 6:24 AM

(02-29-2016 10:26 PM)CptLeon Wrote:  From an email from amara, she says that the new testing samples for LIIK will be sent out Tuesday. I really doubt that they are sending out a formula that they haven't been able to test much.

You mean just like they did with the whole Hed scandal?Dodgy

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03-01-2016 7:43 AM

Yes, I have emailed Amara about this and am waiting for a reply. With her approval to post the response here, I will.

I specifically asked about L2K v1, not v2 or AM.

(02-29-2016 9:19 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Have you contacted Chris or Amara? If they are selling the updated AM and L2k before the testers have even given feedback, they are short circuiting themselves here.... Why not wait for the testing to be complete?

I am a little baffled here...MORE drama? Wacko2

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03-01-2016 8:54 AM

(03-01-2016 7:43 AM)R.Keyz Wrote:  Yes, I have emailed Amara about this and am waiting for a reply. With her approval to post the response here, I will.

I specifically asked about L2K v1, not v2 or AM.

Same here Keyz, I really wanted to use v1 but as far as I know, we could be getting either version.
From an e-mail:

"Remember these formulas maybe one in the same or they may be different and every participants test kit may be different as well"

Whether she's talking about v1 or v2 or getting a 'new' version, I have no idea Paratrooper
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Post: #19
RE: New L2K v1 2016
03-01-2016 7:20 PM

Received response from Amara earlier in the day, just hadn't had the time to post. Besides changing my name, the response is just as I received it. I asked about L2K v1 but -none increase on latest batch applies to all men products.

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"Hi Keyz,

Your question comes with good timing, and we need a messenger so yes you may post.

Due to the issue at hand Chris has just recently pushed the concentration of androstenone upward by 35% in the latest batch of all men's products. The halfway mark of what is to be expected to be a 75% total increase. However, we still need the data from the current test.

NEVER did we change the potency or change the formula in anyway other than our androstenone supplier until now, to correct the lower pungency of the new batch of androstenone. This is not a modification, but an effort to bring the formula back to specification to the original.

Right now we are conducting a test with a few participants so we may be clear about the needed upward concentration of androstenone.

I feel changing to 50mL bottles at the same time we changed our androstenone supplier was too much. Chris and I anticipated problems especially with the 50ml bottle change so we turned it into a sale. It may have seemed like a too good to be true proposition and it wasn't. One has to walk a fine like when making sales so as not to devalue the true worth of the products in the customers eyes. But again Chris and I had no choice. The 50mL decision was forced upon us, but it was never something we could not handle, never something that would cause us to make an unethical business decision.

Regardless we will correct much with this test.

It was a "when it rains, it pours" situation and we are just grateful we have so many loyal and open minded customers willing to participate in making our formulas the best. Thank you all!

Sincerely,
Amara Stefani
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Post: #20
RE: New L2K v1 2016
03-01-2016 7:49 PM

How do we know which batch we got, I got L2k v1 and AM last month.

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