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Is oxytocin a pheromone?
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Is oxytocin a pheromone?
04-09-2010 8:38 AM

Oxytocin nasal spray acts on the person who inhales the spray. This can be explained through what is known about oxytocin, physiology, and behavior.

How have the marketers of "pheromone" products convinced people that oxytocin use will affect others who are exposed to it through the person who wears the spray?

"New treatment for social problems in autism? Oxytocin improves emotion recognition." April 8th, 2010.

http://www.physorg.com/news189946895.html

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RE: Is oxytocin a pheromone?
04-27-2010 3:55 AM

(04-09-2010 8:38 AM)jvkohl Wrote:  Oxytocin nasal spray acts on the person who inhales the spray. This can be explained through what is known about oxytocin, physiology, and behavior.

How have the marketers of "pheromone" products convinced people that oxytocin use will affect others who are exposed to it through the person who wears the spray?

"New treatment for social problems in autism? Oxytocin improves emotion recognition." April 8th, 2010.

http://www.physorg.com/news189946895.html

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I have been telling people for years its not a pheromone over at PT but they dont listen. Every hormone doesnt act as a pheromone.

Its a drug and I dont think it should be messed with. You have some people who have used Liquid Trust and love it. I have it, Its ok but I would never get it again. I feel there are other pheromones in it and this is where they are getting the reaction from. It feels like nols to me.

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RE: Is oxytocin a pheromone?
08-18-2010 7:41 PM

Pheromones effect hormones that affect behavior via a detailed pathway common to all mammals. Oxytocin (and other hormones) are regulated by the pathway that is directly effected by pheromones. Oxytocin (and other hormones) generally support prosocial interactions among conspecifics; they do not directly affect prosocial behaviors like pheromones do.

I recently read that oxytocin supports the development of parenting in mammals primarily through its impact on parent-infant proximity and touch behaviors. This is like placing the cart before the horse. The parent-infant proximity is what allows pheromones to condition hormone release and behaviors associated with touching (tactile stimulation). Oxytocin can do nothing to affect behavior unless levels change with concurrent exposure to pheromones.

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RE: Is oxytocin a pheromone?
09-24-2010 3:36 AM

(08-18-2010 7:41 PM)jvkohl Wrote:  Pheromones effect hormones that affect behavior via a detailed pathway common to all mammals. Oxytocin (and other hormones) are regulated by the pathway that is directly effected by pheromones. Oxytocin (and other hormones) generally support prosocial interactions among conspecifics; they do not directly affect prosocial behaviors like pheromones do.

I recently read that oxytocin supports the development of parenting in mammals primarily through its impact on parent-infant proximity and touch behaviors. This is like placing the cart before the horse. The parent-infant proximity is what allows pheromones to condition hormone release and behaviors associated with touching (tactile stimulation). Oxytocin can do nothing to affect behavior unless levels change with concurrent exposure to pheromones.

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Novartis with Oxytocin Spray ? Snorting Liquid Trust?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/health...yness.html
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RE: Is oxytocin a pheromone?
09-26-2010 2:31 PM

"...giving them the hormone or a placebo via a nasal spray and then asking them to perform an 'empathic accuracy task' - which measures their powers of reading the thoughts and feelings of others."

There is no indication that oxytocin has any pheromonal affect. I would need to check the article for the amount of oxytocin that is administered via the nasal spray, and then attempt to compare it to what the marketers are saying is delivered to the nose of someone else when their product is used. However, there's little reason for me to do this comparison, since no data from either non-human animal, or human studies suggests that oxytocin is a pheromone.

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(09-24-2010 3:36 AM)FUNNER Wrote:  Novartis with Oxytocin Spray ? Snorting Liquid Trust?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/health...yness.html
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07-02-2011 1:07 PM

Interesting Thread,now iam not sure if i will order the wingman 9+O :blank:
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07-02-2011 1:14 PM

9+O has cops in it other than oxytocin versus just element 9.
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08-18-2011 5:13 PM

(07-02-2011 1:14 PM)mengster Wrote:  9+O has cops in it other than oxytocin versus just element 9.

Eek

Really?!

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RE: Is oxytocin a pheromone?
08-19-2011 8:36 AM

Yup

Take from first page

"Our ELEMENT 9+O System has 9 Pheromones, plus Oxytocin and Copulins"

"The ELEMENT 9 System is our Premium Blend of 9 Pheromones"

http://wingmanpheromones.com/
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08-19-2011 8:14 PM

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