Hey All,



I am a 47 y/o man living in the beauiful Cascade Corridor in north-western Washington State. A disabled veteran, I own and operate a private security firm, and though this business operates "behind the curtain" as it were it is nonetheless highly competitive and both the acquisition and retention of long-term contracts depend in large measure on first impressions and interpersonal dynamics. Almost all of our staff, from the sales team to individual field operators, are ex-military where the vast majority of them, including myself, were out on the "sharp edge," and therefore our training and collective work experience tends to be long on aggression and short on sensitivity. In order to be competitive we have taken great strides to retrain our staff to deal more effectively with a civilian clientele, many of whom are performers and artists who require, shall we say, a "delicate" hand at times. I am pleased to say that I feel confident that my people are as courteous and professional as any in the business and more so than most, if I do say so myelf. However, I am always looking for an edge. The very nature of this business dictates that our clients are often spending protracted periods of time in very close proximity to our operators, whose very imperative requires them to make the client's safety their personal responsibility and, if necessary, to physically defend the client by sheilding them with their own body. You cannot perform this function at a distance. We literally have an "arm's length" rule in many situations wherein the operator is at no time to be greater than an arm's length from the client; this in order that they are "grabbable" at a instant's notice. So, in the case of a high-value/priority client, this can mean being within 3 feet of one another for periods up to 20-30 hours at a time. During these intervals it is imperative that the client feel safe and secure and that they trust the operator(s) implicitly, and so I was particulalry interested when I read that there were certain pheromones, or combinations of pheromones, that can actaully engender this kind of feeling in people. THAT, my friends, is the name of the game in this business. You can escort the client around in a column of Bradly Fighting Vehicles, all bristling with belt-fed heavy machine guns, but if they don't feel safe it is all for naught; they will take their business elsewhere, nevermind that we did our job and they are stiff alive. As a matter of fact the field is full of struggling firms whose people - many of whom I personally know to be some of the very best in the business - are still "projecting" force and aggression as they were trained to do in combat. This in the mistaken belief that the client wants to see big, mean, warrior-types surrounding them. One competitor does his door-to-doors in black Hummers exclusively. In our experience this is a mistake. Our clients want us to look like nobodies, but then be able to transform into Rambo if/when they moment comes. They want someone they can talk to since they're going to be sitting next them on the airplane for the next 13 hours. Some, though this is not often spoken of aloud in my circle, even want to flirt and play and therefore want someone suitable. I can't tell you how many times "cute," and "hot" shows up in client preference forms. (we actually added "attractive" to our checkbox list as they were simply writing it in anyway)



How I came to be here was this: I was recently perusing a copy of Science News and Review, a peer-reviewed journal showcasing cutting edge science and technology, and ran across an article on pheromone therapies being utilized in animal/livestock husbandry with a sidebar on human pheromone therapy. So I began chasing down more data and eventually ended finding pheromone forums, and among those this one seemed particularly legitimate. I have no time for hype or fantasy, and this form appears to take a more empirical stand (actually this and one other) than the competitors. So here I am!



I am VERY interested in any advantages that pheromones might garner my business, and as a recently divorced man (after 26 years of marriage and 5 children) who is new to the dating scene again - only this time around I'm pushing 50 (and disabled, though I am still ambulatory) and therefore seemingly invisible to attractive women ;-) - I am also interested in learning whatever potential advantages might be realized in my personal life as well. And then there's the fact that I also simply find this subject fascinating and am eager to undertsand it better.



Having said all that I must also make clear that I know jack-squat about this subject. It seems a little pie-in-the-sky honestly, but I assure you all I approach with an open mind and a sincere desire to believe.



Ok, well I've waxed on about myself long enough so I guess I'll stop here. I look forward to meeting all of you and learing from you.



~Op

Hey there OpR8R, welcome to PheroTruth. I am curious as to which other forum appears to be legitimate to you, as to the best of my knowledge we are the ONLY pheromone forum that is not owned or operated by a pheromnone company and doesn't sell products.

Now, on to pheromones. They are not pie in the sky magical bullets and there is nothing that can be sprayed on and magically transform a person. That being said, pherromnones do exist and their main purpose are for communication, abeit however subtle that might be. We know virtually every mammal on the planet depend on pheromones for mating, marking territories and signaling danger, does it not make sense the at least at some point in history humans did the same?

We know that even today Oxytocin is one of the factors involved in initially forming the bond between mother and child. We know that when males are exposed to female copulins their testosterone levels will increase by as much as 140%. And, we know that females are comforted by expoure to Androstadienone while suffering through their menstual cycles.

The above are scientifically proven facts. We also know that the human body is a very effecient machine and lets little go to waste. If pheromones did not still serve some sort of function, we probably would have done away with them through evelotion. We used to think the Appendix and Tonsils were useless organs, but most doctors today would agree that while the are not neccessay to our survival, they do serve a purpose.

Anyway, I'll get off my podium now and say that I think as long as you keep your open mind and curiousity, you may soon find yourself with a medince cabinet full of Pheromones and a new weapon in your arsenol.

So, dig around and read up. There are tons of reviews and information in the Product Reviews forums, and a lot of experienced phero users around to answer any questions you might have or to help you decide on what might work best for you.

Here's a few of the pheromone molecules that I think would probably aid you in your profession and a quick summay on what they do:

Beta-Androstenol - Opens the door to deeper communication and trust.

Androsterone - Projects an aura of trustworthiness and protection. The are A and B varients of this molecule, with the B variant being less intimidating and forceful.

Androstadienone - comforting to women, however can have negative effects on some males.

DHEAS - Just an all around happy and feel good molecule.

There are many others as well, but I think most would agree that for your goals, these would be staples.

Welcome to the forum! I know it does seem pie in the sky at first but I assure you it's not.

Welcome to the forum OP & thanks for serving our country. Im also a disabled vet and worked in the defence industry until recently. You have made it to the right place.

Welcome to the forum man.

(05-04-2012 10:47 AM)OpR8R Wrote:  ..And then there's the fact that I also simply find this subject fascinating and am eager to undertsand it better...
~Op

Tie a rope around yourself like the lady in poltergeist that went into the glowing closet and don't go toward the light.. DONT go toward the light! HAha

(04-15-2012 7:31 PM)thundr Wrote:  So my curiosity has been peaked. I'm a knowledge nut and now I'm learning everything I can to acquire this "edge" for myself..

This was me 2 weeks ago and now my credit card is on strike and my wallet won't speak to me anymore.

Thanx everyone for you warm welcome!

Quote:I am curious as to which other forum appears to be legitimate to you, as to the best of my knowledge we are the ONLY pheromone forum that is not owned or operated by a pheromnone company and doesn't sell products.

Yeahhhhhh, startin' to figure that out. The other site was PT (suspect you knew that, yes?), obviously an Androtics pet. Keep in mind I'm new and I'm still fumbling around a bit. I'll figure it out. I have zero tolerance for BS and will quickly cull the herd. Being so knowledgeable it may not be absolutely clear how overhwhelming the sheer amount of type devoted to this topic can be to a newb. It isn't always immediately apparent who's legit and who's not. This site seems straight up though. Bravo Zulu!

Quote: [pheromones] are not pie in the sky magical bullets and there is nothing that can be sprayed on and magically transform a person

Not lookin' for that. Not lookin' for anything really except to learn. My entre into this was not so much "Hey! I gotta find out how to do this miracle thing!" and far more "Hmmm, that sounds interesting. Interesting as hell in fact. I'll have to find out more about this." So, I'm about as wide open as they come. My long and storied ;-) career has conditioned me to avoid preconceived notions, they get people killed. I am therefore approaching this as I would any other intel: research, research, research.......ACT! I look forward to hearing/reading more from you! :-)

Quote: Welcome to the forum OP & thanks for serving our country. Im also a disabled vet and worked in the defence industry until recently.

Good for you my man! You have my respect. We gotta show 'em we still got the chops to get the job done, right?! Thank you for your sacrifice, I can TOTALLY dig it.


Thank you for your preliminary suggestions, I will immediately begin to suss out everything I can. Can anyone suggest a basic 'mone primer? I keep looking thinking surely there must be one, but I can't find anything (at least beyond product info. Need to understand chemistry/pharmocology!)

And don't forget, my interest is two-fold; I'm single again and though I am an old, old man (Yikes!) I am still MOST interested in the fairer sex. Any info along personal lines would be appreciated as well! Maybe more so! Thanx again!

(05-04-2012 1:34 PM)OpR8R Wrote:  Thanx everyone for And don't forget, my interest is two-fold; I'm single again and though I am an old, old man (Yikes!) I am still MOST interested in the fairer sex. Any info along personal lines would be appreciated as well! Maybe more so! Thanx again!

Uh, now wait a minute there buddy, I'm older than you are and I ain't old, damnit!

OK, well maybe I am, but I keep right on denying it until the Coroner carts me away.

Welcome to the community, Op.

Thanx all of you, I look forward to getting to know you all.

~Op

Welcome to the forum Op! Thank you for your service to our country!