(09-07-2017 9:35 PM)Mars82 Wrote:  As soon as I wiped out most of the app leaving only a trace, the lethargy went away. Plus something good happened later in the evening.

I think it is the Androsterone-s. There might be a huge amount in it. I usually experience lethargy with products that contain high Androsterone contents.

Houdini to me on the other hand it's opposite. It gives me an upbeat happy chappy selfie. And it's the same with the hits. Solomon on the other hand calms me down dramatically. Kinda like half a hit of weed sorta calm.

So in other words Androsterone sulfate is an upper for me. E-trione is a downer for me. Am assuming different people feel different selfies.

Mars, have u tried Solomon by any chance? If yes, what was the selfie u got? Thanks in advance.

Not just Androsterone-s there, also plain Androsterone.

(09-07-2017 10:38 PM)DrChocolate Wrote:  Mars, have u tried Solomon by any chance? If yes, what was the selfie u got? Thanks in advance.

No, I haven't tried Solomon's attar yet.

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(09-07-2017 10:50 PM)ps775 Wrote:  Not just Androsterone-s there, also plain Androsterone.

From the Apex site: Copulins, Aloeswood, Ginger Root, Amber, Androsterone Sulfate, Dipropylene Glycol

He didn't mention it, but maybe there's Androsterone also. I also get the same self effects when using more than 2 sprays of other Androsterone/Androsterone-s based products from other vendors. I will try Houdini later at a lower dose. It might work for me.

(09-07-2017 11:00 PM)Mars82 Wrote:  No, I haven't tried Solomon's attar yet.

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(09-07-2017 10:50 PM)ps775 Wrote:  Not just Androsterone-s there, also plain Androsterone.

From the Apex site: Copulins, Aloeswood, Ginger Root, Amber, Androsterone Sulfate, Dipropylene Glycol

He didn't mention it, but maybe there's Androsterone also. I also get the same self effects when using more than 2 sprays of other Androsterone/Androsterone-s based products from other vendors. I will try Houdini later at a lower dose. It might work for me.

http://pherotruth.com/Thread-Solomon-s-A...#pid186064

(06-20-2016 3:40 PM)thundr Wrote:  Houdini. This one I hit with Pheromones in addition to the aloeswood and copulin synergy. It is enhanced with androsterone and its sulfate to provide some typical phero assistance. This product is more of a human musk experiment rather than animal. I resisted adding e.none in this first batch. It may get added in later as a modifier.

Yes, it contains Androsterone and AndrosteroneSulfate...

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Thanks guys. I think I have to use low doses of Houdini due to the Androsterone and Androsterone-s content. I have noticed that products that have Androsterone and/or Androsterone-s that are buffered with other mones are ok with me. However, those that contain the two as their main mones make me lethargic.

I'll get back to this hopefully next week at low doses. Then I'l try using it in a combo to see if the use of another product would counter the lethargy.

I received my order of the ultimate test pack. Aside from the candy and party candles, thundr sent me a sampler of Aromale. Thanks again thundr.

Since I was not able to use SMagnet for quite a while, I wore this product in its new, non-androstadienone version. My initial observation is that the scent longevity is now longer. With my previous bottle, the scent lasts only for about 4 hours. Now it is already 7 hours post-application and the scent is still going strong. I might not have to reapp if this goes for another 3 hours or so.

I'll write up a report on the effects and how this compares to the previous version after I have used the product extensively.

Also, I was able to finish my sample vial of Tusc in Frost. I'll also write up a report later. Based on my limited tests, Tusc is another winner.

Last night, 12 hours post application of SM, I can still get a whiff of the scent. This morning, there still was a very slight scent until I rubbed it off with witch hazel. This is a lot lot lot longer than the previous version. I love this!

Just to put it in here, I noticed that in the test pack the scents of Chamber 36 and SM go well together. The scents of Manimal 2 and C-Musk also blend well with each other.

(12-18-2017 10:01 PM)Mars82 Wrote:  Last night, 12 hours post application of SM, I can still get a whiff of the scent. This morning, there still was a very slight scent until I rubbed it off with witch hazel. This is a lot lot lot longer than the previous version. I love this!

Just to put it in here, I noticed that in the test pack the scents of Chamber 36 and SM go well together. The scents of Manimal 2 and C-Musk also blend well with each other.

I can totally relate to everything you wrote. I haven't played around much with Sex Magnet so I will have to try it out tomorrow. I have found that Manimal 2 and C-Musk work quite well together at about a 1:1 ratio for me. I'll have to try out SM with C36. I can imagine that they'd play pretty well together.