I am a bit curious on how big body chemistry plays in the success of a pheromone. Take your favorite pheromone or mix that has generated the most consistent hits but instead of spraying it on your body, spray it on your shirt instead.

Do you still get the same amount of hits? Has anyone tried this with their favorite pheromones?

(05-29-2012 9:28 AM)ZB pmones Wrote:  Take your favorite pheromone or mix that has generated the most consistent hits but instead of spraying it on your body, spray it on your shirt instead.

Do you still get the same amount of hits?

Short answer is 'yes,' spraying on clothes works. People say that androstenol, IIRC, will convert on the skin (especially on hair) to androstenone. I've never researched this and I can't really comment since I've only sprayed on skin without significant quantities of hair.

But I typically spray on clothes because I want to avoid skin absorption. The only reason I'll spray on skin now is when I'm wearing short sleeves and want to have some control over exposure. Arms/hands are easier to extend and retract.

The blend will affect people the same but diffuse slower because your clothes are cooler than your skin. If you used an extra spray of two it would balance out though. There is an excellent post about this by Alpha Dream you could search up

(05-29-2012 2:15 PM)eyeofra Wrote:  The blend will affect people the same but diffuse slower because your clothes are cooler than your skin. If you used an extra spray of two it would balance out though. There is an excellent post about this by Alpha Dream you could search up

This is the only thing I found from Chris regarding spraying on shirts. But its mostly concerning diffusion rate. I'm more interested in whether a person's body chemistry can enhance or neutralize the effects of the mones. If you have a mones combo that worked well on your body, does it work just as well sprayed onto your shirt only. If it doesn't, then your body chemistry is enhancing the mones or vice versa. I can't test this scenario since I haven't found mones that work for me on a consistent basis so hoping the more experienced mones users have experimented with this aspect of mones usage. Thanks for any input.


"As for wearing it under your shirt, this may work fine with alcohol based products, as they tend to have a much faster evaporation rate. So wearing an alcohol based formula on your undergarments would be a way of limiting diffusion and ultimately making it last longer.

Rattlesnake hit it right on with his comment about the silicone base we use. We tuned the silicone base for optimal diffusion and a long lasting effect - on the skin. We recommend this the most.

Our silicone base is somewhat of a mid-point between the evaporation rate of an alcohol based product, and an oil based product. We have found it behaves more like an oil, yet an oil which is so light so as to eventually evaporate 95% of it's original mass within 12 hours.

Sorry for the website info being a bit dated. I have to update the site soon with more accurate information.

Cheers,

Chris @ alpha "

I do not think "body chemistry" plays a very big role, if any, it would be very small in whether or not a pheromone works. It's more about whether or not the pheromone is appropriate and people's personalities.

An example would be an alpha product might not be a good fit for a guy who hasn't had any girlfriends yet; but may be great later on. He wouldn't be congruent with it if he is a shy guy. It would just be confusing for him and other people.

Another example would be, not all products are appropriate for all girls. Some girls are more reserved than others, even if it is having an effect on them, they can choose to ignore it or brush it off. Some girls just may not like a product.

But I do not think any of this has much to do with anyone's ethnicity. People don't produce enough phermones naturally to have much of an effect on anything. That is why these products can work, they provide a high enough amount that it can be detected and have bigger effect.

1. Mara at love potion claims that dry skin might absorb mones.
2. Bacteria can convert mones to other substances or other mones.
3. While many people have suggested that younger guys produce enough androstenone that they don't need to add any, it's just as likely that the reason older guys benefit more from Androstenone is that older guys pursue older girls and older girls react better to Androstenone.
4. Some mones seem to interact with one another, but they do so in the nose of the sniffer, not on the skin of the wearer. So where you spray them shouldn't be an issue. The biggest variable is who you want to influence.
5. The location of where you spray mones (hands, chest, etc) may influence how closely the scent is associated with you, etc.

But generally speaking... I've never noticed an issue with spraying mones on my clothes so go right ahead.

(05-30-2012 3:38 AM)wiserd Wrote:  1. Mara at love potion claims that dry skin might absorb mones.
2. Bacteria can convert mones to other substances or other mones.
3. While many people have suggested that younger guys produce enough androstenone that they don't need to add any, it's just as likely that the reason older guys benefit more from Androstenone is that older guys pursue older girls and older girls react better to Androstenone.
4. Some mones seem to interact with one another, but they do so in the nose of the sniffer, not on the skin of the wearer. So where you spray them shouldn't be an issue. The biggest variable is who you want to influence.
5. The location of where you spray mones (hands, chest, etc) may influence how closely the scent is associated with you, etc.

But generally speaking... I've never noticed an issue with spraying mones on my clothes so go right ahead.

Thanks. Dry skin absorbing the mones might be an issue. I will try putting mones on band aids and sticking them to the inside of my shirt next time to see if there's improvement in hits. It would be hilarious if I forget and bring a girl back and she sees all the band aids stuck to my shirt when I take it off

Is there any info out there about the difference in having the stuff on the skin or in your hair ?

Are the same bacteria working the same way in the hair / on the skin ?

Due to holidays I'm a bit more hairy in my face these days. Put 2 globs OD in my beard and 1 glob in the hair on my head.
The extremely cute 20 yo girl at a local bakery went a bit DIH and just repeated my last sentence instead of saying "you're welcome".
Absolutely funny, but I kept a straight face

Also : Does anyone here have any hot climate experience with the Wingman M512 oil, is it a special kind of oil ?

(07-30-2012 4:15 PM)20 Franc Wrote:  Is there any info out there about the difference in having the stuff on the skin or in your hair ?

Are the same bacteria working the same way in the hair / on the skin ?

Due to holidays I'm a bit more hairy in my face these days. Put 2 globs OD in my beard and 1 glob in the hair on my head.
The extremely cute 20 yo girl at a local bakery went a bit DIH and just repeated my last sentence instead of saying "you're welcome".
Absolutely funny, but I kept a straight face

Also : Does anyone here have any hot climate experience with the Wingman M512 oil, is it a special kind of oil ?

I use it pretty often. It's hot here now but I've used it in cooler environments and it has worked there as well.
I've never used it as a standalone but together with X22 and C4. However, M512 clearly adds attraction. I've used X22 and C4 without M512 and it's not the same. Good but not the same. M512 is more sexual.
One, two or all of those oils also have insane longevity, because I get hits well after 15 hours.

I realise i didn't really answer your question but the main point is, you really don't need hot climate to benefit from m512.