RE: Been lurking here, finally joined and saying hello
01-28-2012 5:20 PM
Good afternoon all
Thanks for the warm welcome, I tried to post this an hour ago and after typing out this LONG post, suddenly it crashed and I lost it, so here we go again, maybe not as long but will see. I decided to come back and add a little more information to my introduction and add a few things that lead to my joining the pheromone society to speak.
I have always been pretty much an Alpha whether by nature or learned behavior through playing years of multiple sports with football into college. OK, getting laid as often and by as many different girls at that time was just something that was expected and happened. I didn't have to have game per se, just playing football at a major university was game enough in its own. Honestly you could be a close cousin to lurch from the Adams family and if you were a player, you were likely to get action, maybe not cheerleader talent, but you surely got action. Thankfully I was at least a few levels above Lurch LOL and those years were fun to say the least. The drawback to all of that fun was the fact that I never had to work at it, and never learned or picked up any subtleties with communication and pick up of girls, I never had to work at it, and did not experience failure very much so I never focused or paid attention to signs or anything else.
Fast forward a few years and I am out of the Medical school and working in sports medicine, very glamorous type field, high value so to say and very interesting and spending a lot of time around professional athletes and celebs as well. Just running in that circle provided connection with women not in the same way that playing football in college did, but was not to far behind. Well, not to far later I then I had a family and I focused my time and energy to that and pretty much ignored any attention or possibilities that presented itself from women as it just was not something I would do at that time.
Ten years later and I am no longer in that situation, I am not running the same circles as I was when I was first working in sports medicine although that is still my career, just a smaller area and working more with middle school and high school athletes and not the professional ones. Much more rewarding in a lot of ways, but less prestige and glamor. Twenty years or so years after playing sports in college and two ACL tears and surgeries, bad knees now, and carrying some forty pounds more than I did in college I found myself out there and for the first time since high school actually having to compete and fight in the area of women and pick up or getting dates. Fortunately talking to people has never been an issue as I have done lectures in front of 500 people or led a small group in a research study that consisted of only 5 or 6. So honestly talking to women that I have never met before, or ones that I was introduced to has never been a difficult task. Keeping a conversation going for an hour or two at a bar or club or coffee shop has always been pretty easy to accomplish but what happened after that point started to become an issue.
I found myself in social settings starting to analyze women and eliminating the field down to ones that I felt pretty confident in talking to and was keeping my focus on 5-7 types and totally avoiding the 7 and above. Now, add some alcohol to the equation and I was walking over to open conversations with those as well. But I started to see alcohol as a crutch more so than a social lubricant and was concerned with that. I started to wonder where my old confidence was and as time passed I would narrow my search down even more and started to notice that I was still getting conversation going, still keeping that conversation going, still getting phone numbers that led to dates but was not closing the deal at a greater frequency as time passed. That of course led to more attention to narrowing my search and approaches unless I had already had several drinks, but was still not closing the deal as often, so my crutch was now broken too.
Well, as most men in their forties become aware of, or should I started to pay attention more to prostate issues and health. Normally I do my due diligence before starting a regimen of anything esp if it is something I am going to take into my body. Well time factors I guess took me off my guard this time and I started the saw Palmetto and beta prostate programs and over a years time it slowly wrecked my T levels. Yes, I was the poster boy for the LOW T adds on television and when I finally got a blood panel workup done, my T levels were down in the pre-puberty range. No damn wonder I was lacking my normal confidence, and having a difficult time closing the deal, or even having the desire to try if it was not something I felt was safe and easily attained. I soon started with the topical T replacement and within 3 to 4 months I was starting to feel like my old self again. I since stopped using the topicals as prolonged use will lead to a decease in your bodies natural ability to produce T more so than the normal aging process does. I now have started using natural and organic aids to increase it naturally, I have started working out again and I use some natural AA products to prevent an increase in estrogen and all of the effects that it can have. That was also high in my panels earlier as is anytime your T levels are down. That can lead to wreaking havoc with your sex life and if not treated or corrected over time can leave you inches shorter in the category that counts below the belt as well.
So, fast forward to today and where I am and hope to be. I started researching pheromones a month or two ago, read several forums and lurked around them reading and taking in information like a sponge. Yes, I read some posts and thought, BS towel is being tossed in by me, but I kept reading and researching and found enough to want to try for myself. I have always been the type that is skeptical of anything and everything, but the science side of my brain says, OK, if there is enough there, go for it and see for yourself and so I did. I have had mixed results so far, but I can say that I have seen things happen on a few occasions, both were with women I have been out with before or met before, so not a cold approach, but things did cross the goal line with both and was not expected as the evening started. So, I do believe there is cause and belief to pursue more.
Then I happened to read AS33156's amazing transformation, HUGE KUDOS to him and a HUGE THANKS for the links he posted, as I started to see things I was missing in some of the information that he posted. Yes, I could start a conversation with most women and now that I am feeling more myself again, almost all women with less fear or no fear of rejection. I have always been able to get the conversation going and keep it going, but after reading some of the literature posted I started to see where some of my faults and failures lay. I read more about body language and found that I pretty much have done that all the time, I knew that I was never one that just asked questions and found that looking back I pretty much always led the conversations and had thankfully enough topics to always keep it interesting. I knew that anything I did in life I had a zest for prior to the low T time and thankfully once again so I was always charged and excited when talking about things in my life. Then i started to see that I had the social comfort down and maybe I had the body language of attraction down, and I had been doing a lot of things to create likeness already and did not know it, BUT, I was not doing anything to make them stop and chase me. I was always happy enough to lead the conversation, to keep it uplifting, to make it fun and interesting, but I never did anything to make her think, wait, does he really like me, as it always must have seemed that I did. Reading a lot of the literature has opened my eyes to a lot of things and I truly am looking forward to getting back out there and seeing what happens.
Big KUDOS once again to AS33156 for posting the subliminals as well, I had already purchased the confidence one and some others along that line, but I had not purchased deep inner game or becoming an alpha male a HUGE THANK YOU again for providing those. I have always believed in the power of subliminals as honestly I can not sleep with the TV on anymore due to many times waking up to the strangest dreams and thinking where in the hell did that come from only to look at the TV and go, damn there it is. The TV had crept into my dreams and the tone of my dreams were coming from what ever type movie was on. Therefore I know subliminal works and I have been over the past two weeks listening to a few quite often and am already seeing a change in my thought process.
Now finally to mones themselves. I honestly believe that once I get control over my inner game and get my confidence back to normal that I can do pretty well again. But, pretty well is not good enough coming from a sports background that says WIN, WIN, WIN LOL. Therefore anything that might give me an edge whether via self effects, effects on others, or just something that mentally helps me focus in on who and what I want to become or return to can't be bad. The research and science side of me looks at them and says, they alone will not accomplish what you desire. I do not think there is anything made by man or found in nature that can be bottled and get you laid just by wearing it. I do believe and have seen though first hand twice that there is something going on that does seem to play a role and add to what you are already doing with them. And to further my feeling that something does happen and being the researched minded person I am, I purposely slathered Androstadienone on me one evening to the tune of 80 MG and within 30 minutes I was not depressed per se, but I didn't feel good about anything and just felt bummed out period, and felt a little like I was hungover. So, something works with them for sure, good or bad.
So, my desire with mones was to find maybe a few combos for good self effects, getting rid of the alcohol crutch and returning to the thought of drinking as a desire more than a need. Secondly to boost my own thought process and push me towards who I used to be, or even better, who I am going to become. And lastly, the benefit of adding something to or creating an extra feeling when in the one on one setting or just meeting someone in a bar.
I look forward to my experiences and thank everyone that has boldly gone before me and posted all of their findings. And with that, it is my birthday and I am off to shower, prepare a mixture for the evening and go join friends to celebrate and have fun, and who knows maybe cross that goal line once, or twice, hell maybe all night LOL.
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