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Animal suicide sheds light on human behavior
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Animal suicide sheds light on human behavior
03-10-2010 5:33 PM

Quote:Whether it's a grieving dog, a depressed horse or even a whale mysteriously beaching itself, there is a long history of animals behaving suicidally, behavior that can help explain human suicide, says newly published research.

Rest of story HERE!!

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03-11-2010 10:03 AM

People who don't have animals and otherwise are not around them tend to not believe that they can grieve or be depressed, etc. There is even a lot of disconnect with people who have animals, assuming animals don't feel pain like people do, like letting pets stay outside on cold nights.

The story didn't give examples of grieving animals killing themselves. They didn't say the dog who drowned itself was grieving, per se.

I was first thinking beached sea mammals probably don't fit into the "suicide" classification, since it's probably something making them do it, like sonar waves from military vessels, or pollution, etc;but then when I read the last two paragraphs, I realized that using those parameters, you could classify it as suicide. Here are those paragraphs:

"It becomes reversed, in a sense," said Ramsden. Animal and human suicides are no longer seen as willful acts but as responses to conditions.

What that suicidal Newfoundland was telling us, then, is not so much that animals and humans think alike, but that it is, as Joiner said "...a fatal consequence of biologically-based and extremely serious illness."

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03-11-2010 1:26 PM

No kidding Cosmomac, I was walking my roommate's dog the other day and he was just so excited to be out that he was pulling at the leash, going every which way. I had to stop, make him lay down to calm down. He didn't want to at all. He was like an impatient kid in front of Disneyland just wanting to go in. He whined and tried shaking hands to elicit a 'reward'. Eventually he understood I wasn't going to give in, so he lay down and sighed. I laughed as I watched this because I could feel his emotions, his annoyance/frustration. He wanted to run around so badly. Smile

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RE: Animal suicide sheds light on human behavior
03-13-2010 9:35 AM

Oh yes Phya!

LOL

Reminds me of my little "Benji" dog.

I read the results of an official study where the researchers were to surprised
at the data which showed how human like many dog emotions are.

They cited the example of dogs being selfish with their toys and then when
the researchers let other dogs play with their toys, the dogs would sulk,
much the way children do in the exact same situation.

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