Sorry for that! Browser/connection problems I think.

Yes - where I left-off, unless you are a young guy, just dripping in natural none, Androstadienone is far too comforting on its own and needs a fairly punchy sexual in the mix - P83 alone is not that but it will help a more sexual Androstadienone mix very well.

Whoops forgot to mention that I was going to use the following combo:

NA+True Love+ Glace +P83

That looks a much more sensible mix to partner P83 with!

Yeah, I read some reports that P83 in a similar combination increases the urgency of the hits. What are your thoughts/

(06-13-2012 9:40 PM)as33156 Wrote:  ..... Love scents ones at 40 mcg a drop.

IMHO , 1 drop of Androstadienone is approximately 25mcg.
I measured the 20 drops of Androstadienone. Тhey were exactly 0.5ml .
(24drops are 0.6ml)
I have read in Love Scent-forum that 10ml Androstadienone contains about 400-416 drops.

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(02-15-2013 4:13 AM)examine Wrote:  isn't New Pheromone Additive a -none heavy mone?

Yes.
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Hmm that may explain the negative feeling effects i got when I added 40 mcg of Androstadienone to my N.P.A i applied along with it.

(04-29-2012 1:55 PM)MuskCloud Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 12:17 PM)Fly So Hi Wrote:  Thanks, professor.

That goes against every alpha-male mindset teachings, though. That if you are cocky/funny and happy, it means you have control over your own life, that you don't need that particular girl to be happy, therefore sexually attractive.

I think we're forgetting to make a distinction between established relationships and the initial attraction phase. In a marriage or Long Term Relationship, of course a woman will try to give consolation and support to her mate if he is feeling down and vice versa. We would be absolutely rotten partners if we didn't show empathy and support when the other needs it.

I could understand a woman not being attracted to a man who appears to be depressed. She may try to help or talk with you, but she would be motivated by sympathy and not attraction.

Musk

I think there is another distinction here. The consoling type of woman is a F type on the MBTI. 60% of women are F (feeling) type vs. T (thinking) type. This doesn't mean women don't think if they are F type, but it does mean that they are skilled in the use of empathy. Empathy where they value others feelings and figure them into the decision making process. T types often seem cold and heartless compared to F types. It isn't all or nothing as some people are extreme on the T/F axis and some people are more centered.

Men are also ~40%F ~60%T for the USA population. This plays into the stereotype that women are more feeling than men, because they are in some ways, everyone has feelings on the inside and they "feel" just as strongly, just women have a statistically higher average in the use of EMPATHY SKILLS.

I do think that empathy skills get in the way of ALPHA type leadership. Alphas dominate, they don't use empathy and consideration, they see them as signs of weakness. So this is backwards-contrary in some respects that you need to use all your understanding and listening skills in a sort of PSUEDO-EMPATHY, then use this knowledge to manipulate the situation to your advantage, but not use the knowledge as a person who has real empathy, real empathy would feel/care for them or actually hurt with someone who is hurting. Scary how sometimes playing the game can seem like anti-social behavior. The difference between someone diagnosed as anti-social and someone diagnosed as a psychopath is the psychopath has been found criminally guilty in court, while the anti-social has not yet been found criminally guilty.

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Anyway, on Androstadienone , studies show that inhaled Androstadienone at pheromone levels raises serum cortisol levels. An increase in cortisol levels will lower serum Testosterone levels. Lower Testosterone levels have been linked with depression, as Testosterone supplements have been used to treat depression.

Androstadienone can have a pheromone effect lasting ~1hour after a single exposure, from experimentation.

Androstadienone can last over 10 hours on an application point.

I can see how you could get a chronic exposure if you were to spray/apply Androstadienone to a pillow or something and it had long term exposure that could lower Testosterone levels.

The reverse is true with Androstadienone as well, Testosterone is a pheromone and is exhaled in the breath, and present in the saliva in corresponding ratios to serum levels. Higher levels of Testosterone in women produce increased libido. Testosterone also has pheromone attraction properties as women are attracted to its smell/presence. This gives some truth to the comical cliche "You can smell the Testosterone in here", whether they can consciously smell Testosterone and differentiate it from Body Odor is another question all together.

Great post, Dexter. Too bad I can't rep you for lack of points. Interesting findings, I'd like to give Testo a try as a pheromone, some day.