I came across this interesting old thread on the love-scent forum where tacitus (as surfs_up) described his early experiences with androstadienol (I think this is the beta isomer but the thread doesn't specify...

Quote:Lessee here...... Gaaaaaaaaawdddd after reading all those post about sexual conquests, erotic

microwaves, wimmins flinging themselfs from across the room, proper girls morphing into crazed nymphos, and pitiful

me with my chemistry set hoping to get lucky down at the Warped Horseshoo Bar... life jest aint fair...

Have

had the opportunity to play around with androstadienol (closely related to androstadienone, not the same tho) and

compare this with alpha-androstenol and beta androstenol, all in heavy rotation...

Where it at ?

Androstadienol is FUN dude, it is psychologically the lightest, most childlike, outright playful of the pheromones

(that I know about)... if alpha-androstenol is feelings, empathy, moving you into a place of "getting" where another

person is coming from emotionally, and beta-androstenol is more abstract, somewhat dramatic "meeting of the minds",

adult discussion, smoke clearing energy, androstadienol is the comedy pheromone, there isn't the soul plumbing

emotional opening of alpha, it's more surface, think maybe comedic improv, Mad TV, John Stewart, innocent

silliness, excellent mood lightening.... professional clowns should wear lots of it,
not so bad for clowing

around in other contexts either...

To wit, mixed my usual STRONG ASS androstenone base with a hefty balancing

shot of androstadienol and proceeded with ye bootye call...

It was a freaking blast, giddy fun crazy

uninhibited sex, felt like I did when I was 18 or so when it was hot, new, and ridiculous before we settled into our

lifelong notches. Absolutely kewl brew.....

Sounds like TAC to me... and along comes Jasmine (as Le Sillage) to say she can get some! This is back in 2004 before the putatives, but right around the introduction of the T series.

This is why I think TAC is one of the androstadienols.

TAC is not Androstadienol even if they are laying out false traits ...

I´ve played around with TAC up to 160mcg and never found it changing it´s behaviour when doing up a Sweat ...

Next... A-dienol si damn expensive ... !

Tacitus descibes it as the most fun mone out there...

and that´s what i´ve felt in WMB

And it seems to have a distinct smell on it which i can only sense in WMB and in Chikara !

Chris can arrange some for a high price and i already told him that i´m gonna order some at the end of the month ..

Pago

@Pago
Please post link when you have it (Androstadienol).

When I asked about this one, Chris said he was having it synthesized in a few months and it will be cheaper then.

How do we have a molecule synthesized ourselves?

I´m too curious to wait several months ....

will talk to Chris these days ...

Pago

(06-17-2011 11:50 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  I´m too curious to wait several months ....

will talk to Chris these days ...

Pago

Did Chris ever get back to you on the Androstadienol?

Beta-dienol is about 6-8 months away. Im having more stAnone made as that's a necessity to the formulas.

A synthesis costs about 4 thousand dollars. The dollar is weaker these days.

If you have another, cheaper source, by all means feel free to utilize it until we have it made...

Pagodeiro,
I saw your post asking Bruce about Alpha & Beta-Androstadienol.
I wonderer if you had seen the post by Surfs_Up(Tacitus) on the molecule and where he obtained it. I'm not sure he obtained it from molcan, though he listed it, he may have gotten in with la_sillage(Jasmin) who claimed she new where to get it as well, but has opportunities thru her business to order the stuff, sometimes they don't sell to home researchers.
Surfs_Up posted this back in 2004 about dienol
http://love-scent.com/forum/showthread.p...ght=dienol

I checked Molcan's web site listed in the thread, and they didn't list dienol anymore
http://www.molcan.com/and-rc.pdf
But so many people posted replies to this post, that some of them (I know it was 2004) may still have a copy of that pdf file, even though Molcan doesn't have it on the web in the same place.

It also made me think that AD must have had it, I wonder what products started around 2004 and ended when the dienol of their provider (Molcan) dried up. Possibly showing what may have contained the Androstadienol.

Perhaps Jasmine(la_sillage) will send you 10mg for free. (pardon my bad jokes).

Hope I don't irritate you by posting something that you probably already searched out on your own. I did see where you flamed that guy for not doing his own search, and I know that you have probably searched this out already before posting. But for others, who can buy molecules with a Purchase Order, could you help a fellow out (me) and hook me up with some shared mg's that are pure stuff from molcan or sigmaaldrich or steraloids that they won't sell to me because I'm a home researcher.

Hi Dexter ..

the problem is .. Androstadienol is only available from China or from Steraloids

Dbot found a copy of AD ´s website where they were selling 15mg in a dropper bottle for somewhat 300 bucks ...

I´ve read up on Tacitus ( Surf´s up posts ... yeah ) and i´m sure that this is not TAC . i mean Androstadienol .

there have been several price quotes and Androstadienol has been quite cheap back in the days .. but something must have changed

of course if you order only very small batches of a molecule from a supplier like Molcan or Steraloids the price is ridicculous high usually

I´m sure that Bruce has a supplier for Beta Androstadienol ..i have the stron suspicion that it´s in his Chikara

nex thing is .... we should try to get some from HAX ....

or i will talk to Chris again to get some from Steraloids .. but this will be a damn expensive fun ...

Cheers Mate

Pago

Good idea getting in touch with HAX...