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3 major phero brands recently go down/off
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RE: 3 major phero brands recently go down/off
10-27-2016 8:46 PM

(10-26-2016 6:14 PM)Androcles Wrote:  Thanks. Gotcha. I definitely find the website functionality horrible. The art and theme is unique. I guess, original. That's nice, but the arrangement of items is discouraging and patience-testing. I'll order some samples at some point just to see. I just wanted to see what you two thought in particular.

I'm planning on making a mega LPMP sale in November. Most of what I have are the $5 samples. I want to sell almost everything that I have and use that money to buy full bottles of the ones I really like. If I have to guess, they are at least 80% of men's/unisex collection (including few they stopped selling). Although I'm selling everything as a bundle so it may be more than what you are willing to spend but just thought I'd let you know.

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RE: 3 major phero brands recently go down/off
10-28-2016 11:07 AM

This is strictly my opinion, which is probably right in some ways, but I don't think these companies are doing well in sales or financially. They continue to come out with different products with unique names while using same molecules of Pheromones. I believe lack of marketing is the reason for their low performance. After a while of putting in maximum effort, they just don't choose to care anymore. I don't blame these companies one bit.

What I don't understand is that different name for different type of products and most of these products end up being not effective for their consumer; due to lack of one molecule or another. For example: I drive a Range Rover SVR. I bought this car for Performance and Luxury. But don't put Hyundai engine in their and tell me it's still a Range Rover and try to sugarcoat it by saying you still get the Luxury part of it. I would just walk away from the Salesman and say "Nah, homie don't play that!"

Anyway, there are 2 reasons why 3 major Pheromones (3 headed monster as I like to call it) on the Internet are still in dominant to this day.

1) They have big Marketing funds.
2) They just don't personally care about satisfying their consumer (weather responding to them personally or coming on forums like this for promotion) and still make huge amount of sales.

Yes, it's a harsh reality but it's true. I'm still considering to promote a next rising Pheromone superstar! All he or she has to do is a creat a special Pheromone for girls to approach me. Then we will share the fame together!
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RE: 3 major phero brands recently go down/off
10-28-2016 12:15 PM

(10-28-2016 11:07 AM)RoverRobb Wrote:  This is strictly my opinion, which is probably right in some ways, but I don't think these companies are doing well in sales or financially. They continue to come out with different products with unique names while using same molecules of Pheromones. I believe lack of marketing is the reason for their low performance. After a while of putting in maximum effort, they just don't choose to care anymore. I don't blame these companies one bit.

What I don't understand is that different name for different type of products and most of these products end up being not effective for their consumer; due to lack of one molecule or another. For example: I drive a Range Rover SVR. I bought this car for Performance and Luxury. But don't put Hyundai engine in their and tell me it's still a Range Rover and try to sugarcoat it by saying you still get the Luxury part of it. I would just walk away from the Salesman and say "Nah, homie don't play that!"

Anyway, there are 2 reasons why 3 major Pheromones (3 headed monster as I like to call it) on the Internet are still in dominant to this day.

1) They have big Marketing funds.
2) They just don't personally care about satisfying their consumer (weather responding to them personally or coming on forums like this for promotion) and still make huge amount of sales.

Yes, it's a harsh reality but it's true. I'm still considering to promote a next rising Pheromone superstar! All he or she has to do is a creat a special Pheromone for girls to approach me. Then we will share the fame together!

I'm not sure who you consider to be "the big three" here.

I've had a different experience working with LAL, Apex, and Pheromone Treasures than you describe. What I've observed of them is that the founders are passionate about perfecting their mixes and understand the importance of good customer service. They're not independently wealthy, so they're doing a lot of this themselves or farming it out economically. When problems crop up, and they always do, it creates a stir on Pherotruth and other 'mone boards. Then someone hypothesizes that "The End is Near" for the latest example of imperfection.

When you're passionate about something as imprecise as affecting human beings with funny nose candy, but not a lottery winner, you've got to eventually productize what you've created and maintain that recipe while you continue exploring all of the interesting paths not chosen while you were developing it.

So I put on my lab coat for a year, discover a whole lot about beta-mysteryone-2 and how it interacts with solar flares, menses, and coffee, and every week I've found an interesting new interaction with birditol and goat hair and chinchilla musk. The problem is that I want to share this with a lot of people and I can't keep eating ramen and getting payday loans for the next container of centipede copulins, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS MIX EVEN BETTER.

SO I push it to market as Liquid Panty Remover. But it turns out that another variable, the rare (but stinky) New Jersey Sasquatch, made all of my tests successful, but Squatch doesn't live outside New Jersey because he hates DiBlasio. So now everyone thinks that my product is a failure, except I've got a dozen women trying to break into my house (and Squatch is pissed that I'm stealing all his trim). So I work a deal with Squatch to distill his musky essence (that was horrible) and release LPR-2 as a test. Hirsute men hate it, and they're vocal, so the less-hairy asian prospects never see LPR2, so it's deemed a failure even though there would be a population surge in Japan next year had I gotten it into the right hands.

You see where this is going.
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RE: 3 major phero brands recently go down/off
10-28-2016 5:12 PM

LAL is having problem with a prude payment processor.As for AD I think glace should be acceptable. Androtic still got good stuff ,but none of them are in consumer line.
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RE: 3 major phero brands recently go down/off
10-29-2016 3:51 AM

@RoverRobb

the day a truly outstanding pheromone-formula is devised, it will be subjected either to regulations by national authorities and taken over by the pharma-industry or it will be replicated by potent major companies. You cannot patent a pheromone formula as long as you use molecules that are already in existence and or naturally occuring steroids, sterols and so forth ...
And it is much more complex than just finding a unique combination and at 2 or 3 not thought of molecules - though that will surely lead to some better stuff than available now.

You'd need to invent and synthesize a novel substance and have that patented. good luck with that.
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Post: #16
RE: 3 major phero brands recently go down/off
10-29-2016 4:49 AM

I didn't expect this thread to go so far. To me, only 2 companies are in water.

1) Androtics Direct: Destroying their flagship product A314. It was no surprise though. They had lot of problems in customer service. I don't expect them to come back. The creator of pheromone product is nowhere to find.

2) Alpha dreams: They have bad batches. Although, sold them to people. They have ethical issue. I don't do business who have ill intent for customer.

I don't consider LAL as dead in water. They are having payment processing issue. It will be sorted out soon. There are other channels to buy their product too. There has been no problem with quality of product.

As a community, we hold high expectation from pheromone companies. We expect innovation faster than possible. It takes few months and lot of money to bring one good product in the market. Also, the sales comes in very slowly. It will take around 3-5 months for the profits to tickle in.

We should expect companies to keep the consistencies in the product. I am fine using Nude Alpha for long enough. I will upset about the formula change in the mix. Consistency is a big thing.

Also, good customer service is a must for me. I will discard any pheromone company for bad customer service. It is mandatory in online business. Also, good customer service gives confidence in seller product.

There are overall 4 to 6 good companies in the market. I don't see them going anywhere for a year or so. We will never know about long term future.
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RE: 3 major phero brands recently go down/off
10-29-2016 10:54 AM

@barefootoxford

Great job. It gives you a PhD in Pheromones and Pheromone related matters; even though you signed up only 3 months before I did.

By the way, I will provide my ounce of sweat, hair sample from root, my saliva and copy of my blood test. If that's not enough for my body chemistry, I will optionally provide sample cup of urine, dried up piece of feces, and load of fresh semen. I hope that's enough of my body chemistry and DNA profile enough for any Pheromone genius to develop a perfect Pheromone for me without having to anal-yze any goat or chinchilla. Although, I understand you'd rather take that route.

Now I completely understand where you're going. I hope you've heard of The Exits. Prehaps, you'll find your much demanded "Alpha" prolific respect there. From the looks of it, there's none available on this side.
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10-29-2016 11:08 AM

(10-29-2016 3:51 AM)GoergeFocky Wrote:  @RoverRobb

the day a truly outstanding pheromone-formula is devised, it will be subjected either to regulations by national authorities and taken over by the pharma-industry or it will be replicated by potent major companies. You cannot patent a pheromone formula as long as you use molecules that are already in existence and or naturally occuring steroids, sterols and so forth ...
And it is much more complex than just finding a unique combination and at 2 or 3 not thought of molecules - though that will surely lead to some better stuff than available now.

You'd need to invent and synthesize a novel substance and have that patented. good luck with that.

From my understanding, Pheromones industry is one of the few industry that's not federally regulated here in the United States along with Sports Wagering and most nutritional supplements. It's a Wild Wild West. So I don't see why any authorities would interfere with the production process. Everything has a price, I'm willing to pay that price given the fact that it would be a suitable pheromone for me and a reasonable price. I'm sure our Phermone superstars can come up with an exceptional Pheromone product.

@kalpan

United States is a nation of creators and innovaters. We sent men on the moon and space. We've develope every technological advances that the whole world is enjoying today. The geography and metaphysic of this great land allow us to have such geniuses among us. I should know because I reguarly defy the odds with my creative and innovative calculations. No self-respecting company would self-destruct unless they're just not right in the head. I truly believe it's the financial issues for these companies to go stale and put out not-so-good products.

Bottom line is that I don't buy the notion that there are not perfect Pheromone for anyone.
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10-29-2016 2:52 PM

(10-29-2016 11:08 AM)RoverRobb Wrote:  United States (...) We've develope every technological advances that the whole world is enjoying today.


I have to disagree with that http://pherotruth.com/images/smilies/prankster2.gif there's a whole world outside the United States. you may want to re-read your history books

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(10-29-2016 2:52 PM)moe Wrote:  I have to disagree with that http://pherotruth.com/images/smilies/prankster2.gif there's a whole world outside the United States. you may want to re-read your history books

M.

Haha, i thought the same. But its the typical American self-confidence paired with maybe a bit to much ignorance towards the rest of the world Smile
But thats common in the US, just see their current presidential election Rofl
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